It seems that most of the time, my discussions with people about socialism and communism end up on the topic of “but people are inherently bad, or at least a few people are, and will always take advatange of others. Even during natural disorders, some go steal everything in the stores while other help strangers”
I always have a hard time arguing that human nature depend on the environment, that it takes a few generations, and that there is probably always going to be violence but it’s marginal and can be taken care of.
What main ideas am I missing? And how to argue about this and respond to this central idea that refrain a lot of liberals?
Thank you!
If you have any theory that you want to point at, that would also be great
There’s a good quote by British philosopher Andrew Collier: “To look at people in capitalist society and conclude that human nature is egoism is like looking at people in a factory where pollution is destroying their lungs and saying that it is human nature to cough”
The main problem is that the factory spends trillions of dollars convincing people that coughing and black lung is part of human nature.