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      Yes, at this point, there is really no fucking saving it or hoping for changes, they will go as far as they need to go to get their profits back up. It must be abandoned. The only time I ever spend on reddit is to convince people to migrate to kbin or lemmy (nicely, dont be annoying)

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          Unfortunately, the majority will not care. Reddit’s app ranks first in iOS’ app store after Twitter. This is what Reddit wants, people to stop using third-party apps so that they can easily target ads to users.

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        What really worked for me was the https://sub.rehab website. When I found that, it made me realize I need to stick with the people who actually built the subs I love – the mods. Here I am.

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          My issue with all of this is everything is scattered all over the place now. Many of my followed reddit subs are on lemmy and then some are on other platforms and it’s too much to keep track of. So my followed content is going to drop off a lot in general - I refuse to sign up for Lemmy. The name alone annoys me.

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            as long as they move to federated sites, its fine, you can access them all from kbin as usual. but if they decide to make their own site, or go somewhere centralized (ew) then yea, not much we can do abt that

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      Also … Reddit is a private business where people were allowed to come in to chat and talk … don’t act surprised when the owners and managers change their minds for whatever reason and decide to kick you out.

      It’s the company’s space, like the lobby of a shopping mall … people are freely allowed to come in, sit down and chat … don’t be surprised if the owners of the mall decide one day that they no longer like you any more and bring security in to escort you out.

      You have no rights or privileges on a private social media site … you have temporary permissions … and those can be changed, disregarded, forgotten or done away with at the discretion of the owners at any time for any reason.

      LEAVE REDDIT … you’re on someone else’s lawn and they don’t like you any more.

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      I’m eager to see how reddit becomes a steaming turd after June 30th, that imbecile is gonna end up with nothing of value in his hands. Let’s see where that profit comes from then

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        It will be another giant soulless site for the masses to endlessly scroll and see the same tired reposts and memes. They’re welcome to it.

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          Correct. Now the bots will be constantly scraping the pages of every post which will be a much bigger burden on their servers.

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            Yeah. The unethical bots will just use scrapers, as they already do for the many websites that don’t offer APIs. They’re already violating ToS, so they don’t care. Ethical ones won’t have that option (at least not past the fairly low quota).

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          From my understanding, they already aren’t using the API.

          If the spam bots were using the API, then Reddit would have been able to shut them down trivially. Part of logging in via API requires a “client ID” that uniquely identifies the creator of the app/bot being used.

          They could theoretically have each bot account create its own client ID, but even that would be a pretty obvious thing to look for.

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      @LinkOpensChest_wav

      @minnieo

      It’s always been Stormfront 2.0 anyway

      Exception taken.

      Don’t get me wrong: it has been an absolute dogshit downward spiral for at least the last five years, but what it has become bares almost no resemblance to what it was 15 years ago - or even 8 years ago.

      It had great potential and utility. All of it squandered via some of the worst decisions possible. Each of which ignored the current user base in favor of a quick buck.

      It needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.

      Echoing: Fuck Reddit.

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        When I joined in 2011, it was already a bastion of pedophilia and bigotry, so I’m not sure which era you’re talking about

        In my experience, reddit has always been a dogshit web site

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          I understand now, and you’re certainly entitled to your opinion.

          That type of content comes with the territory, and could easily be avoided until relatively recently if you didn’t go looking for it.

          What was arguably the most diverse and far reaching collection of individual message boards cannot be filed away as a hyperbolic monolith of the perceived horrors such a place will inevitably contain.

          Whatever your interest, reddit had a lively discussion for it. The cancer you describe is a result of the society it allowed to publish. Further, it metastisized from it’s self-contained cesspools when they were closed.

          It’s clear that either your experience on the site is narrow, while the site is extremely wide - or you’re retconning your prior experience based upon your current opinion.

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        I used Power Delete Suite, and I overwrote my comments instead of merely deleting. That makes the data even less useful to reddit.

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          @LinkOpensChest_wav That makes total sense in order to make reddit less valuable. It only took me an hour and I did it manually because wanted to see my comments – there were many kind and interesting things I wrote. It was kind of sad and it also felt right to just go.

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      You know how there are posts all over Reddit (and even all over here) saying “what’s with the porn on r/interestingasfuck?” or “I don’t know what’s going on with John Oliver”?

      It’s because of them that the “protests” must continue. Raising awareness is the point. Only a small percentage even know what’s going on.

      Reddit would love for everyone to quietly go away, they’ll pretend nothing happened and move on with a small chunk of users missing but still growing.

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      Yep, finally using this site lol. Admins have gone full dictator over there.

      So we get a boost and upvote here eh? Neat

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      they won’t

      i tried to move my 100k subscriber sub to kbin (i also offered two different chatrooms)

      6 came to kbin and people started attacking me for having the sub closed (one person even resorted to transphobia like jesus fucking christ) and being “political” and one person even made their own version of my subreddit

      moving is too much work (it’s actually not that much work, but since we now need two videos playing at the same time and can only watch those vids for 30 seconds, everything is “too much work”). that’s why people are still on facebook, twitter, instagram, and tiktok.

      i’m very glad there’s an acceptable amount of activity on the “threadiverse” right now… but i just don’t have hope that everyone will leave.

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        @okbin@kbin.social it’s ok, people will gradually move out as Reddit deteriorates. Eventually most interesting people will be elsewhere, the platform will still exist but it will be an empty shell.
        The important thing is for threadiverse to take flight and acquire a sustainable size, the rest will happen in time.

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        I’m not sure what the skill issue is on that sub, but I, a moron, had no more trouble coming here than I did navigating reddit

        Those are either bootlickers or bots, who can safely be disregarded

        74% of reddit were ignorant assholes anyway, so no loss

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      I could see some disgruntled users intentionally trolling and spamming the subs just to trash it in revenge for what Reddit is doing to them.

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      PSA: The shitty website this person mentioned bears NO RESEMBLANCE to reddit.

      It’s always been S---------- 2.0 anyway

      that is a really fucked up thing to say. idk who you are or what are your motivations.

      making an equivalency between reddit and a 100% white supremacist nazi website is:

      a) promoting that website

      b) saying that website is similar to reddit. Does S----------- have the variety of users and topics as reddit? No! Whatever your criticism of reddit, however over tolerant reddit was of some really shitty communities, it was not founded explicitly and exclusively as a way of promoting genocide and violence.

      Your comparison serves only to uplift S------------. Which may or may not be your intention.

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        It’s been overrun by white supremacists since I first joined in 2011, and that’s never changed.

        Check any popular sub on r/all, and they’re the prevailing voice that’s never silenced. r/PublicFreakout, r/mildlyinfuriating, r/interestingasfuck, r/AskReddit and r/unpopularopinion are just a few examples of subreddits where white supremacists run rampant. It’s so bad that I deleted my first account due to receiving weekly homophobic death threats, which went ignored by the mods and admins.

        Reddit has always been a bastion of white supremacy and pedophilia under the guise of “free speech.” That’s demonstrably true. The whole “leans left” thing is just more propaganda.

        Edit: I maintain that reddit was founded specifically to platform hate speech. It’s certainly been consistently pursuing that goal

        But you are correct in saying that reddit is not the same as Stormfront. It is much worse than Stormfront in that most users don’t perceive the white supremacist subtext in the majority of threads on popular subs

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      The only good that can truly come of this at this stage is sabotaging Huffman’s hopes of cashing out for a second time, after he sold his stake for a ““mere”” 10 million back in the day.

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        Imagine having more money than anyone can spend in a lifetime and users who create the content for you. All you have to do is sit on your ass and do and say nothing, but then imagine what a pants-on-head stupid fool you’d have to be to do anything to mess that up, to let your ego totally disrupt the sweet deal you’ve got going. That’s Steve Huffman – the king of all losers.

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      Reddit’s relevance came from the people that used the app, not the app itself. If Reddit wants to fuck over the people that made the app what it is today, they will end up useless.

      Reddit is not like Twitter in that it thrived from mass population of people using it. It thrived from quality users that provided quality content.

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    This morning’s news about the r/mildlyinteresting team being reinstated and unsuspended by a different admin - that’s confirmation that there’s internal conflict going on. Protests don’t work, my ass.

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      It would be nice to see some some of the admins go rogue also. I know it’s a lot to ask for people to sacrifice their jobs but some people still have ethics. And some people are in a positions where they can leave their job and pick up another one within hours or days if they’re in the demanding field.

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    GO DM MODS OF YOUR FAVORITE SUBREDDITS AND POLITELY ASK ABOUT MIGRATION!

    Please don’t do this. I’m a moderator of a sub (won’t say which one). From a personal standpoint I’m happy to use both platforms. Vilify me if you will. But I do not want to see messages from users asking if we’re going to migrate. That’s pestering and it won’t go well if that particular subreddit isn’t into it.

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      How else do you suggest bringing migration to their attention? I am a mod as well, I cannot see how someone politely asking if we are thinking about making a community on a diff platform can be perceived as pestering? It appears this is individual and not every mod will be annoyed and not every mod wont be annoyed.

      edit: 10 people suggesting it to mods says “this is in higher demand than we thought, not just one random person’s suggestion that we can ignore, we need to consider taking action or addressing this” Which is how changes happen. mods need to listen to their users, thats the responsibility they volunteered to take on. As a commenter said below me: “If you are getting annoyed because so many of your users want to migrate, maybe you should consider migrating instead of demonizing your users?”

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    Hilariously, a subreddit that I mod, with less than 700 subscribers and like, 4 slightly active users (3 of whom are mods), just got the threatening modmail. We only went private as a gesture of solidarity, there’s maybe one post a week so it’s not exactly a bustling community. I’d made the sub public for about an hour every couple of days in an effort to avoid this sort of thing, guess it didn’t work.

  • I have to add though that the form of protest proposed by that mod team is pathetic.

    “only YOUR pictures of suggestive vegetables, must still be OC”

    Either shut the sub down or burn that shit down by turning it into a porn sub. This little “we’re gonna be creative, we’re gonna allow suggestive vegetables!” mischief is pathetic af.

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      I mean the fact it was a pathetic protest method and and admins still shot it down speaks leagues about how much they care about their users. I don’t say this word lightly: the admins are snowflakes.

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        Marking the sub as nsfw affects their ad revenue, that’s is the only reason they care.

        Doing stuff like posting pictures of suggestive veg or John Oliver seems like a way for mods to protest without driving as many users away.

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    Jesus, this is escalating fast. I never actually thought admins would go to such crazy lengths. Such pathetic desperation!

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      I fully expected Reddit to fight dirty, but it’s still surreal watching the iron hand come down against the community. Silver lining, I hope this helps accelerate the migration to the fediverse.

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        I remember ten years ago sharing beers with admins who visited London. Back when there was a push for developing local communities and Global Reddit Meetup Day. There was good vibes and a feeling of mutual respect.

        I met my wife through Reddit.

        I still have so much affection for the site in my heart.

        It’s just wild to me how much has changed.

        Really glad I never got that Snoo tattoo now.

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          Reddit isn’t the first online community I watched outgrow itself into the grave. I guess it’s just the cycle of social media. Here’s hoping this time’s different.