German Chancellor made his comments in an interview with weekly ‘Der Spiegel’. Scholz is focusing on migration after a pair of regional elections in which voters punished his three-party coalition
He’s completely missing the point. His party, and their front-runner in one of the states went all in on that whole “deportation/migration” stuff and still lost hard in the elections.
And now, they interpret that as “I guess we just didn’t imitate the conservatives enough” instead as “leftist people won’t vote for you if you abandon your principles” and double down even more.
A leftist party can’t win over conservatives voters by imitating conservatives, but it sure can loose leftist voters by that.
Well, I used to like some of their (die Linke) contributions. But lately, I don’t consider them a viable party to vote for. I don’t have a well founded opinion on Sarah Wagenknecht. But now that like 20 people vote for the Linke, I don’t consider it an issue if someone takes away a few of their voters. They’re kind of meaningless anyways.
Sometimes I look at the USA and wonder if that’s our destiny. A government without participation of social democrats and the parties who have that in their name being more incompetent than anything of value to the citizens…
I hope that’s not what’s to come. I think because our parlimentary system allows for multiple parties (i.e. > 2) we have the advantage that a true social democrat party always has the chance to rise and achieve a ruling coalition. It isn’t perfect, but I think it’s a better system.
But regarding die Linke, I dont think they were ever a viable party to vote for. They’ve supported actual terrorists and Wagenknecht is Sarah Palin level crazy.
Yeah, I was more referring to them doing the opposition and occasionally speaking up for the citizen in things like child care, taxes and how to treat the people who are not well off. Sometimes surveillance and stuff. I guess I like someone doing that. But you’re right, they always had that mixed with some strange ideas.
I absolutely hate how some attention craving idiots completely destroyed the pirate party from within.
A liberal party that’s not neoliberal centrist like the lobby party we have but instead with a left leaning social part and a very open minded and modern world view would be so perfect…
That “left” wing is barely relevant and only very moderately left. What counts is who is running the party, and that have been conservatives and neoliberals since Schröder.
I’m not sure I’d call the Social Democrats in either country country “leftist” (they’re center-left and the “center” portion is more relevant), but it’s fairly likely that the Scholz’ party copying the Danish route would work. The issue is that the SPD’s approach is that it was half-hearted. If you want to win over xenophobes you have to mean it. For now the assumption with voters is that Scholz and the other SPD people are all bark and no bite.
He’s completely missing the point. His party, and their front-runner in one of the states went all in on that whole “deportation/migration” stuff and still lost hard in the elections.
And now, they interpret that as “I guess we just didn’t imitate the conservatives enough” instead as “leftist people won’t vote for you if you abandon your principles” and double down even more.
A leftist party can’t win over conservatives voters by imitating conservatives, but it sure can loose leftist voters by that.
We need a proper leftist party we can vote instead.
Its a shame all we have is die Linke and whatever Sarah Wagenknecht is cooking up.
Ugh, Wagenknecht is closer to the AfD than true leftist values.
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Well, I used to like some of their (die Linke) contributions. But lately, I don’t consider them a viable party to vote for. I don’t have a well founded opinion on Sarah Wagenknecht. But now that like 20 people vote for the Linke, I don’t consider it an issue if someone takes away a few of their voters. They’re kind of meaningless anyways.
Sometimes I look at the USA and wonder if that’s our destiny. A government without participation of social democrats and the parties who have that in their name being more incompetent than anything of value to the citizens…
I hope that’s not what’s to come. I think because our parlimentary system allows for multiple parties (i.e. > 2) we have the advantage that a true social democrat party always has the chance to rise and achieve a ruling coalition. It isn’t perfect, but I think it’s a better system.
But regarding die Linke, I dont think they were ever a viable party to vote for. They’ve supported actual terrorists and Wagenknecht is Sarah Palin level crazy.
Yeah, I was more referring to them doing the opposition and occasionally speaking up for the citizen in things like child care, taxes and how to treat the people who are not well off. Sometimes surveillance and stuff. I guess I like someone doing that. But you’re right, they always had that mixed with some strange ideas.
Well, if Wagenknecht manages to take all the un-electable baggage with her, maybe die Linke could actually become a party one could vote for.
I absolutely hate how some attention craving idiots completely destroyed the pirate party from within.
A liberal party that’s not neoliberal centrist like the lobby party we have but instead with a left leaning social part and a very open minded and modern world view would be so perfect…
Guess we wish for something similar.
Idk. The 'new’er parties like the Pirate Party or Volt didn’t really take off. Seems like only the right manages to pull it off.
Because everyone on the left is too scared to vote for smaller parties and lose their vote if they don’t make it.
More radical parties always have it easier to convince people to vote for them despite that.
I really wish we had ranked choice voting here…
There is still the communist party, but it’s tiny and likely never going to get into parliament.
The SPD hasn’t been leftist since Schröder, anyone still voting for them over believing they are has missed way more than one train.
They haven’t been leftist since they helped the nazis to power almost 100 years ago by now.
You could argue that, too. But they have been much further left than they are now between the end of WW2 and Schröder.
There still is a left wing in the party, I would vote for Kühnert if I could.
But yes, mostly the party is run by conservatives.
That “left” wing is barely relevant and only very moderately left. What counts is who is running the party, and that have been conservatives and neoliberals since Schröder.
Yes, it can.
I’m not sure I’d call the Social Democrats in either country country “leftist” (they’re center-left and the “center” portion is more relevant), but it’s fairly likely that the Scholz’ party copying the Danish route would work. The issue is that the SPD’s approach is that it was half-hearted. If you want to win over xenophobes you have to mean it. For now the assumption with voters is that Scholz and the other SPD people are all bark and no bite.