• Diplomjodler@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    No they wouldn’t. Once most cars are robotaxis, there will be drastically less space needed for car parks which will free up huge amounts of space. That can be used for bike lanes, so cycling becomes safer and more convenient. And I don’t expect most rides to be single occupancy. People will opt for shared rides if they are substantially cheaper, which would cut the number of vehicles on the road. Autonomous cars are actually the best chance we have right now to escape the car centric hellscapes of our current cities.

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      11 months ago

      And I don’t expect most rides to be single occupancy. People will opt for shared rides if they are substantially cheaper,

      Bus. That’s called a bus. It can also fit more than five people and doesn’t use as much energy to transport each person. You just reinvented a shittier bus

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        11 months ago

        Wrong. I invented a better bus. Well, i didn’t, none of this is new. A bus that goes straight to your destination with few or no stops. A bus that always tells you exactly when it’s going to arrive. A bus that can go to a lot of places a large bus can’t. And of course one that’s a lot quiet and cleaner. What exactly is your problem with that concept?

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          Traffic jams and cost. You can’t be this stupid, can you? I literally pointed out buses take up less space and use less energy. Why ask your question as if I hadn’t pointed out the negatives of your solution compared to buses (or other public transit vehicles).

          Also, it’s not quiter or cleaner, since more cars = more noise compared to one bus (you can’t consider the vehicle without considering it’s capacity), and you generate a lot more pollution (rubber tires produce a lot of particles, and you have more vehicles and more tires with taxis). So stop lying.

          The reason people in cities with proper transportation don’t worry that much about getting a bus directly to their destination is that the network is comprehensive enough to cover all manner of trips, from any one point in the city to another. Same with frequency, if it’s arriving in less than 5-10 minutes it doesn’t matter when exactly it arrives.

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        11 months ago

        Have you ever gotten on a bus? My car is in the shop and I’ve been riding the bus to and from work for about a month now. The bus smells of pee, a fair few of the denizens who ride with me smell of pee, and last week a guy got pepper sprayed or maced by the police for being high (near as I could tell) at the bus stop. I’ve ridden transit all my life (quite literally grew up riding public transit to school and so on), and I gotta tell ya, I’ll ride share before I’ll actively ride a bus. Especially considering the ride share would get me to work in half an hour and the bus takes about an hour and 45 minutes.

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          11 months ago

          Those are reasons to fund better public transit, not double down on smaller cars.

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            11 months ago

            Better public transit than Seattle, NYC, Philly, Chicago, and San Francisco? Seriously. Seriously. I’ve lived all of these places and I gotta tell you, it’s bad everywhere in the US and the problem isn’t the transit. It’s people.

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              11 months ago

              Literally any city in Europe or china has better public transit than anywhere in the US, and it’s not even close.