I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they’ve always worked for me.
Hunter S Thompson
I didn’t really develop a personality of my own until I went balls deep into psychedelics and dissociatives in my 20’s, and even then it wasn’t until I started having “bad” experiences. That first bad LSD trip was rough, but it changed how I saw myself and my place in the world in a fundamental way. So many molecules, so many memories.
I can deeply relate with this! The most extreme “bad” trip I ever had completely changed the way I saw my life.
I was headed down a bad road, and had become content with my shitty lot in life. That trip made me face the fact that I was unhappy and was going to continue become more and more unhappy until I did something about it.
Over a decade later, I am much happier with myself and my environment. Thank you LSD! You changed me life!
A) False. I wasn’t “in denial” when I had my first legitimate bad trip. That’s what made it so cathartic. I was suddenly faced with thoughts and emotions I wasn’t even aware of.
B) That’s kind of a dumb thing to say: “There’s no such thing as a bad trip, but things can make a trip go bad.”?
If your set and setting send you into a bad place, that is the LITERAL definition of the phrase “bad trip”. Ergo, bad trips are a thing.
Thats like saying "there’s no such thing as - ‘contaminated water’. There’s water which is tainted by chemicals or inorganic compounds which creates ‘contaminated water’ ". How it came to be contaminated is irrelevant in that context. It’s still contaminated.
You’re gatekeeping a psychedelic experience, and for what?
Dangerous advice. It is possible to have a psychotic break from psychedelics. But yes most bad trips are “difficult” or anxiety attacks rather than all bad.
There are difficult trips like you’re describing, where it’s unpleasant but there’s something to learn from it. And having the mindset you describe can remind you to look for the meaning in that kind of situation. But there are in fact truly bad trips, where there is no readeemable aspect of it, it’s just pure unnecessary suffering. And that’s not even getting to people who have a psychotic break
I didn’t really develop a personality of my own until I went balls deep into psychedelics and dissociatives in my 20’s, and even then it wasn’t until I started having “bad” experiences. That first bad LSD trip was rough, but it changed how I saw myself and my place in the world in a fundamental way. So many molecules, so many memories.
I can deeply relate with this! The most extreme “bad” trip I ever had completely changed the way I saw my life.
I was headed down a bad road, and had become content with my shitty lot in life. That trip made me face the fact that I was unhappy and was going to continue become more and more unhappy until I did something about it.
Over a decade later, I am much happier with myself and my environment. Thank you LSD! You changed me life!
There are really no bad trips it’s “bad” because we are in denial of what is showing us, and that conflict creates the “bad trip”
A) False. I wasn’t “in denial” when I had my first legitimate bad trip. That’s what made it so cathartic. I was suddenly faced with thoughts and emotions I wasn’t even aware of.
B) That’s kind of a dumb thing to say: “There’s no such thing as a bad trip, but things can make a trip go bad.”?
If your set and setting send you into a bad place, that is the LITERAL definition of the phrase “bad trip”. Ergo, bad trips are a thing.
Thats like saying "there’s no such thing as - ‘contaminated water’. There’s water which is tainted by chemicals or inorganic compounds which creates ‘contaminated water’ ". How it came to be contaminated is irrelevant in that context. It’s still contaminated.
You’re gatekeeping a psychedelic experience, and for what?
Because they’re some 20yr old wannabe psychonaut with extremely limited experience with drugs or mental healthcare.
Dangerous advice. It is possible to have a psychotic break from psychedelics. But yes most bad trips are “difficult” or anxiety attacks rather than all bad.
It’s not advice it’s my opinion, but yeah no everyone has enough mental fortitude, so don’t take my experience as baseline.
There are difficult trips like you’re describing, where it’s unpleasant but there’s something to learn from it. And having the mindset you describe can remind you to look for the meaning in that kind of situation. But there are in fact truly bad trips, where there is no readeemable aspect of it, it’s just pure unnecessary suffering. And that’s not even getting to people who have a psychotic break