• wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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    10 months ago

    The next step is start voting for capitalism bad politicians.

    Those politicians dont exist unless they think thats a platform that could get votes with.

    They measure that by how much people talk about that and poll about that as a positive topic they support.

    People dont poll about ideas they dont know or understand.

    People learn and better understand political views by talking about them.

    Unless youre asking for a violent revolution, this is how you start this conversation. By talking to people about it.

    If you are asking for a violent revolution, thats your own bag. Thats not a step 2 to be egging other people into.

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      10 months ago

      I’m not asking for a violent revolution. I’m asking for more meaningful discourse on Lemmy that doesn’t start or end with “capitalism bad”. All the stuff you said is nice, but not an actionable plan. You yourself don’t seem very bought into it. Maybe we should shift the conversation less about the birds eye view and more about actionable items instead?

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        10 months ago

        The actionable items are run for office, or vote.

        Did you need me to tell you to vote? Are you wanting to run for office? No?

        Then the actionable plan is show someone actually capable of holding office that this is a viable platform. So we have someone to vote for.

        By talking about this. In public spaces.

        I cannot repeat this more dumbed down for you.

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          10 months ago

          This is all so superficial as if we just woke up to politics yesterday. Are you running for office? What are you doing besides voting? Why don’t you lead with that instead of this banal sophomoric rhetoric about capitalism? What about working towards meaningful policy change? Canvassing? Participating in local elections?

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            10 months ago

            Do you think that the average person is getting directly involved in their local political scene?

            Do you think people who are willing to engage with their local politics need to hear one last encouragement from a lemmy comment to finally push them over the fence?

            Or do you think that the people who are informed and motivated enough to be involved already are doing that?

            And that maybe, as a public forum, the actual best thing to be doing is making these ideas commonplace for the average person using that forum, so that when they see those ideas being advocated by someone running for office they will be familiar with the concepts and more willing to consider that person as a serious politician?

            Or do you think maybe you know all this, and are just removed because you want violence?

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              10 months ago

              I think we need to do less grandstanding about how bad capitalism is and more encouraging people to participate in local elections and politics. I don’t want violence at all.