# sudo btrfs fi df /mnt/disk3
Data, single: total=12.70TiB, used=12.27TiB
System, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=1.34MiB
Metadata, DUP: total=15.00GiB, used=14.50GiB
GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=608.00KiB

# mkdir /mnt/disk3/tst
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘tst’: No space left on device

I suspect this is BTRFS balancing issue, but even BTRFS’s own utility is indicating there’s still SOME space left. Certainly should be enough to create a directory.

Any ideas?

Just in general BTRFS default options for creating new volumes seem to not work well for disks that I intend to fill completely immediately after formatting. Are there better options for this use case? I just use

# mkfs.btrfs /dev/sdd1

  • jlsalvador@lemmy.ml
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    When you create a filesystem, there is a parameter named as “block percent free”. This parameter should be “5%”, so a 5% of your partition size can only be written by the “root” user.

    You can decrease this value or just free some space. You can try to create files or folders as root as well.

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      Is there any reason this 5% number still holds true? Back in the days of 40 MB hard drives it made sense to make sure the system didn’t totally run out while root was fixing the low disk situation … but these days even 1% is still several gigabytes of space, not likely to run out that quickly.

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      Are you sure that’s the case with btrfs? I know ext has that feature. My understanding is btrfs just has a global reserve that can be used for any data in an low space situation.

      # sudo btrfs fi usage /mnt/disk3
      Overall:
          Device size:                  12.73TiB
          Device allocated:             12.73TiB
          Device unallocated:            1.00MiB
          Device missing:                  0.00B
          Device slack:                    0.00B
          Used:                         12.29TiB
          Free (estimated):            449.43GiB      (min: 449.43GiB)
          Free (statfs, df):           449.43GiB
          Data ratio:                       1.00
          Metadata ratio:                   2.00
          Global reserve:              512.00MiB      (used: 0.00B)
          Multiple profiles:                  no
      
      Data,single: Size:12.70TiB, Used:12.26TiB (96.55%)
         /dev/sdd1      12.70TiB
      
      Metadata,DUP: Size:15.00GiB, Used:14.49GiB (96.58%)
         /dev/sdd1      30.00GiB
      
      System,DUP: Size:8.00MiB, Used:1.34MiB (16.80%)
         /dev/sdd1      16.00MiB
      
      Unallocated:
         /dev/sdd1       1.00MiB
      
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    For me the answer is always “snapshots” and normally because of docker.

    If you run a docker image store on a BTRFS drive, docker creates snapshots at various times. It never cleans them up; It has no commands that clean them up, and it means that if you delete a file it doesn’t free any space because the snapshots keep the file alive.

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    As a rule of thumb you should keep your disk usage around 60% or under.

    My guess it that you have snapshots or other similar hidden data taking up space. List out your snapshots and sub volumes.

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    Would be nice if there’s some automatic solution, but after running into this issue I always run a couple different btrfs balance after deleting larger files for good measure. Took a while to figure out why Linux said there wasn’t any space left when df reported several GB available on the root partition

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      I am surprised there isn’t an automatic mechanism to handle this especially if it is such a frequent issue.

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    The metadata seems to be pretty close to full. I’m not using BTRFS, but I’ve read earlier that this is solved with rebalancing, or how is that called. Btrfs’s management command is able to do it.

    But possibly the metadata is unreasonably large, so maybe the solution is not rebalancing.

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    Looking at balancing might be right place to start. ref, https://archive.kernel.org/oldwiki/btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ.html#Help.21_I_ran_out_of_disk_space.21

    You might want to start by rebalancing by percentages and not all at once. If nothing else it’ll tell you much sooner if you’re on the right track or not. Something like sudo btrfs balance start -dusage=20 -musage=20 /mnt/disk3 to work on only blocks that are 20% full or less. That should coaleace them into single data blocks and free up some others.