Regardless of her touted chances of winning, let’s not repeat 2016.
Get out and fucking vote like your life, and the lives of everyone you care about, and probably the next 10-20 year stability of geopolitics, depends on you turning out to vote.
It’s amazing how quick the “I just want someone other than Biden” crowd turned to “I’m voting 3rd party” the second Biden was no longer the candidate. Almost like they just want the Democrats to lose…
Don’t mistake it for apathy. I didn’t vote for either major party candidate in either of the last 2 presidential elections because I didn’t like either of the options. I’m not going to be schoolmarmed by anybody on Lemmy for doing so, especially since many of the people participating in US politics discussions on Lemmy seem to be Canadians or Europeans who, just like Russian trolls, cannot vote in US elections.
If you want viable third party options leading towards reform, you have to act accordingly. In '92 Ross Perot won 20% of the popular vote despite only re-entering the race in October. In June of that year he was polling as the leader in the 3-way race, before questions about whether he would qualify for all states ballots. He could have won that election.
Since then, the two mega parties have done all they can to ensure no viable 3rd option ever emerges again. This year we were given a matchup of historically unpopular R, nominated pretty much by default through a party controlled process of primaries that couldn’t be meaningfully influenced by primary voters…and on the D side we were given a historically unpopular D for whom the party scuttled all potential primary challengers, then at the last second they replaced him via their national process, subverting the entire point of having primaries, with a candidate who won zero votes in that initial process or the previous election cycles primary process.
That said, since as an individual I have no meaningful way of influencing or reforming either major party, and both continue to force candidates upon us I don’t like, I will be voting for whoever I want. It is not even remotely similar to “apathy”. Thanks.
I don’t see how you tossing your vote away to a third party that will definitely lose, in any way creates a future with more than two major parties. It simply will never work. Your efforts would be better spent trying to reform either existing party from within. Maybe you’re not apathetic but you are delusional.
What policy is that she has yet to disclose one? And she could have 99% policy that everybody wants and supports. But the mass slaughter and genocide of brown people around the world should be a red line for everybody.
Shes not trying to end anything, did you not listen to her acceptance speech? Or did you listen through the ears of someone that can’t hear right wing authoritarianism?
Shes not trying to end anything, did you not listen to her acceptance speech?
Did you not listen to her acceptance speech?
President Biden and I are working to end this war, such that Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination.
Regardless of her touted chances of winning, let’s not repeat 2016.
Get out and fucking vote like your life, and the lives of everyone you care about, and probably the next 10-20 year stability of geopolitics, depends on you turning out to vote.
I wish I was exaggerating.
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If you’re not voting Harris you will do exactly that :)
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But you wouldn’t vote against Hitler if the opponent would be Harris?
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The fact that you put Harris on the same level as the others tells me all I need to know about you.
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I will vote like I did in 2016, for a 3rd party.
Unhelpful person pledges further apathy. Got it.
Voting for brain worm 2024?
He’s on a .ml instance
It’s amazing how quick the “I just want someone other than Biden” crowd turned to “I’m voting 3rd party” the second Biden was no longer the candidate. Almost like they just want the Democrats to lose…
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And instead you enable someone that does what you hate, but worse?
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Who he previously called “a terrible president.” RFK is a fucking joke.
Don’t mistake it for apathy. I didn’t vote for either major party candidate in either of the last 2 presidential elections because I didn’t like either of the options. I’m not going to be schoolmarmed by anybody on Lemmy for doing so, especially since many of the people participating in US politics discussions on Lemmy seem to be Canadians or Europeans who, just like Russian trolls, cannot vote in US elections.
If you want viable third party options leading towards reform, you have to act accordingly. In '92 Ross Perot won 20% of the popular vote despite only re-entering the race in October. In June of that year he was polling as the leader in the 3-way race, before questions about whether he would qualify for all states ballots. He could have won that election.
Since then, the two mega parties have done all they can to ensure no viable 3rd option ever emerges again. This year we were given a matchup of historically unpopular R, nominated pretty much by default through a party controlled process of primaries that couldn’t be meaningfully influenced by primary voters…and on the D side we were given a historically unpopular D for whom the party scuttled all potential primary challengers, then at the last second they replaced him via their national process, subverting the entire point of having primaries, with a candidate who won zero votes in that initial process or the previous election cycles primary process.
That said, since as an individual I have no meaningful way of influencing or reforming either major party, and both continue to force candidates upon us I don’t like, I will be voting for whoever I want. It is not even remotely similar to “apathy”. Thanks.
I don’t see how you tossing your vote away to a third party that will definitely lose, in any way creates a future with more than two major parties. It simply will never work. Your efforts would be better spent trying to reform either existing party from within. Maybe you’re not apathetic but you are delusional.
Capitulation in voting based on fear is apathy. I vote my conscience. Yours is a protest vote against something.
So you’re fine with Trump winning being on your conscience?
What? Most people voting for her probably agree with at least half of her policy, they’re not just voting against Trump.
What policy is that she has yet to disclose one? And she could have 99% policy that everybody wants and supports. But the mass slaughter and genocide of brown people around the world should be a red line for everybody.
Here’s the Party Platform which she, as a would be democratic president is likely to follow.
Oh, you mean the one she’s trying to end? The one Trump wants to “Finish”.
Shes not trying to end anything, did you not listen to her acceptance speech? Or did you listen through the ears of someone that can’t hear right wing authoritarianism?
Did you not listen to her acceptance speech?
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