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    2 months ago

    It is in so much as anyone can look at what trump did in his first term, and what the consequences of that term have been. Such as roe

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        2 months ago

        None, it’s an abstract to highlight what was (during the trump presidency) and what is (the trump judicial appointment consequences).

        To be closer to Gaza, we can look at the koshoggi assassination inaction, the soleimani assassination, and the infamous “Muslim ban” to gain contextual basis for trump’s expected stance on anything Gaza related.

        There’s lots of rambling talk by trump on the middle east, but as example related to my list, this article describes his opinion of gazans pretty well. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/trump-muslim-ban-gaza-refugees

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          How is that different to what Biden has done in his term? None of those are related to Gaza. Biden has done zero to limit Israel in any way whatsoever. Biden pulled all US troops out of Afghanistan in a clusterfuck of a manner; I don’t think he has done anything to merit saying he’s better than Trump in that regard.

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            Did you not make it to the end of my comment?

            I went from abstract concepts that can inform what we think will happen, to direct examples from the middle east, including his own speech about gazans themselves.

            We have no indication that trump would deviate from current stance on supporting Israeli or Saudi objectives, including with funding. He did that while he is in office, so funding is a moot point.

            Though Afghanistan certainly turned into a mess, I think we should be happy we left. The issues for me on that relate to supporters/translators that we should have gotten out. But that’s the cold nature of the MIC and certainly wouldn’t be any different if trump had won. You think trump would care about some “nobody” who got left behind? Obviously not, he’s described American soldiers who die or are captured as losers, so another moot point in my book.

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              We have no indication that trump would deviate from current stance on supporting Israeli or Saudi objectives, including with funding. He did that while he is in office, so funding is a moot point.

              You can replace that with Biden.

              Did you not make it to the end of my comment?

              Yes. From your link:

              "If you support Hamas or any ideology that’s having to do with that or any of the other really sick thoughts that go through people’s minds – very dangerous thoughts – you’re disqualified.”

              The quote is talking about Gazans who support Hamas, not Gazans in general.

              I do not think Afghanistan would have been better under Trump, but Biden is the one responsible for the shitshow.

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                2 months ago

                Biden isnt running dude. I’m not stanning for Biden.

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                    2 months ago

                    Voting, and trump.

                    From above:

                    Fact remains, not voting is basically is half a vote for Trump, and Trump is going to be MUCH worse for the citizens of Gaza.