• Lem Jukes@lemm.ee
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    21 hours ago

    What with the weird freebooting article? This ‘article’ is just a description of Alec’s video with the clickbait cranked up to ten. Gotta love a major corporation using small creators’ work for free ad revenue…

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        2 hours ago

        Doesn’t mean this is good content I think belongs here. The original video that links to a transcript and a source article do belong here. You want a description cause you don’t want to watch it? go feed the link into chat got. Or ask in the comments. I’m gonna call out corpo freebooting bullshit when I see it and it doesn’t belong on lemmy.

        Sorry, I’m pissy rn.

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      5 hours ago

      This is how hackaday posts have been… for like a decade. I guess it’s somewhere between articles and link aggregator.

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      13 hours ago

      I’m fairly sure that the image is even a screenshot from the video. Uncredited I notice.

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        It is, I just watched the video an hour or so ago.

        edit: In fact, until I read this thread, I didn’t notice the URL and thought this was a link to the video.

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        13 hours ago

        Does someone have a content description so I can read instead of having to watch it?

        Oh wait, here’s an article, nevermind.

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          Guess what you can also read? A transcript of the video dingus. Also there’s a source listed in the description, guess what it is? An article.

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            And a good day to you too. Not sure why you felt the need to be insulting, but anyway.

            A transcript of the video

            Would you happen to have one handy? Or are these autogenerated these days. Are they better than the autogenerated CCs?

            Also there’s a source listed in the description, guess what it is? An article.

            Yeah, which would require me to click on YT in the first place, which is already what I want to avoid due to a limited mobile data plan and YT being a wonderful drain on that.

            I’m just trying to push the point that “just watch the original video instead” isn’t as great a solution for everyone as some people make it out to be.

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              Dude they matched your tone if you thought that that was insulting that’s because your original comment was insulting

              How about you be less of a dick and people won’t respond to you in a way that you don’t like

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              Sorry I was trying to match the level of insulting tone of your reply, I guess I went too mean.

              Technology Connections actually has great CC and Transcripts as I believe Alec adds them directly after proofing an as aired script after his final edit. But I am only guessing based on the level of quality I’ve seen in both after years of watching his channel.

              Your point kind of falls apart though because the subject at interest here is not ‘battery testers’ it’s about a crappy ‘news’ site generating a two paragraph summary of a YouTube video and screencaping images from said video in order to generate ad revenue with minimal effort and dubious ethics.

              That freebooted content being from a longstanding creator of high quality, educational, video content. If you’re so interested in the subject and want to learn more about the subject why not look for one, or even just ask? Instead of trying to make some lame high horse comment in defense of some crappy ai text that only exists to mooch off of actual people’s work.

              Not to mention you didn’t even ask for a source you wanted a ‘content description’ which is like you came in here and went ‘I don’t want video, I want ai slop describing the video.’

              Also, you’re a dingus.

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                Sorry I was trying to match the level of insulting tone of your reply, I guess I went too mean.

                Eh, I’d be a hypocrite to point fingers for that. All good.

                Technology Connections actually has great CC and Transcripts as I believe Alec adds them directly after proofing an as aired script after his final edit.

                I don’t know this specific creator, or many YT tech creators really, since YT isn’t really my main haunt (I’ve tried to explaing that elsewhere, but it boils down to “I rarely have the mental ability to sit and watch them”) and I genuinely prefer articles.

                The video having good CC doesn’t solve most of my problems, unfortunately. It’s a good thing to have, don’t get me wrong, just doesn’t help me a whole lot.

                it’s about a crappy ‘news’ site generating a two paragraph summary of a YouTube video and screencaping images from said video in order to generate ad revenue with minimal effort and dubious ethics

                I’ll grant the dubious ethics point. That subtext didn’t parse for me. My focus was on the fact that the article, being a textual medium, is more useful to me.

                I’m mostly upset at the prevalence of video content and the tendency to push people away from text, like “This guy has a great video” is a useful response to “I’m looking for an article”. This topic set me off, but my frustration is independent of the specific context. I’ve had it happen often enough to make it a sore spot, but that isn’t strictly the original comment’s fault.

                If you’re so interested in the subject and want to learn more about the subject why not look for one, or even just ask?

                It’s not a deep interest so much as a passing “stumble across something interesting”, so I wouldn’t necessarily seek out content on the topic. But if I were offered an essily digestible format, I’d be curious enough to consume it.

                I agree that it would be better not to post cheap ripoffs, but they fill a market gap that I’m the audience for. The solution isn’t to complain about the moochers filling the gap, but to fill the gap yourself. I’m not defending sloppy AI text specifically, but the concept of converting content to a different medium.

                If the content creators don’t want to cater to those who prefer that other medium - perfectly fine, that’s their prerogative. But to then complain if someone else adapts your content to a medium you didn’t want to, that’s what rubs me the wrong way.

                Also, you’re a dingus.

                Fair enough. My phrasing was harsh and born of a frustration that I didn’t really convey.

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                In my experience, YT would still end up loading a section of the video along with previews of suggestion. Maybe that has changed.

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          For anyone that couldn’t bother reading the above comment, I’ve given a summary…

          hurrrrr I’m incapable of engaging the point people are making.

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            No, it’s about me not being able to arbitrarily sit down and watch a video due to various issues like attention span, hearing issues*, limited mobile data and being at work, where an article or summary is much easier and faster to read and can be interrupted at a moment’s notice unlike a video which I’ll have to pause, scrub back through if I missed a detail and wait for it to get to the right point, and I can more easily search for stuff.

            My point is that there seems to be a habit of dismissing the value of textual summaries in favour of “just watch the video” in much of the online world, where I’ll be looking for a quick explanation and get presented with some video instead. Some people don’t do so well with videos so it’s not “just” watching the video.

            There are advantages to text that I hate seeing people ignore.

            (Besides, how would you know I’m incapable rather than just unwilling; or why would you assume either in the first place instead of considering inability?)


            * That issue applies to voice messages and phone calls too. While videos occasionally have good CC, I haven’t found them to be reliable or ubiquitous enough. Additionally, they present the speech in fragments and usually are just as hard to search through. Either way, videos are a “sometimes” thing for me.

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      And Alec’s video is mostly a freeboot off someone’s article.

      So this is a full on article and YouTube circle jerk.

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          You clearly haven’t looked at either article. Parasocial relationships are weird.

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        6 hours ago

        You know there’s a difference between using sources and just regurgitating a summary of something with AI right?

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              I guess you’re right because I didn’t properly look at the hackaday article.

              Alec has paraphrased the Tedium article. All of the talking points of Alec’s video is in the article.

              The hackaday article just summarised the 16 minute video into 4 short paragraphs and linked to Alec’s video.

              Edit: I like interactions like this (the comment thread since my first comment) because it highlights how easy it is for people to make judgements based on a lack of knowledge. It reminds me to try to not make assumptions.

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      That’s enough YouTube videos just recapping an article. But I agree it’s lazy