Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

    • Freefall@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Yup every vote that isn’t for Kamala is less votes the other side has to get to win. All for someone that has zero chance. That is voting for trump by proxy. GJ 👍

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              2 months ago

              One of two parties will win. Every vote syphoned off of what would normally be blue votes makes that one less red vote needed to win. Functionally turning a blue vote red. That is part of why I assume this is just a maneuver by conservatives more than actual thinking liberals.

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                2 months ago

                Harris has chosen to embrace genocide, for voters that will not vote for genocide, she is impossible to vote for. These aren’t blue votes being lost, this is the blue candidate turning red.

                Secondly, liberals are largely loving Kamala and the genocide, it’s typically Leftists who already hate the Dems who are abandoning her entirely.

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                  That’s what I said…they are now trump voters. Trump’s whole thing is the downfall of democracy and the rise of christofascisim (with bonus genocide). IE, a stupid position given declared reasoning.

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                    2 months ago

                    No, Harris is red, not blue, ergo the former voters that would have theoretically voted for a blue candidate can only vote third party.

                    Secondly, Trump didn’t invent fascism, fascism is Capitalism in decay. The fascism is coming with Kamala too, as it currently is with Biden.

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          2 months ago

          It could be if enough people pushed for it, like they should, since it’s objectively better in every way from first past the post, and would actually make doing things like this work.

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            How does that translate into reality? More people want Medicare For All and legalized weed, and even abortion rights. It isn’t as simple as saying “it could be if enough people pushed for it,” the parties don’t operate on public will.

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          Except where it IS implemented… Like legalizing weed, same slow ass path. A few liberal areas do it, slow or scared folks see it is beneficial, it spreads, it becomes a topic at the federal level and has caught on enough that it is just an inevitably…assuming the government doesn’t somehow become christofascist because of some ignorant morons…but that is an edge case.

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            A few liberal areas do it, slow or scared folks see it is beneficial, it spreads, it becomes a topic at the federal level and has caught on enough that it is just an inevitably

            This does not logically follow. Policy is not implemented because it is “popular” or “talked about,” but because it serves a material interest to the corporate donors of the DNC and GOP.

            assuming the government doesn’t somehow become christofascist because of some ignorant morons…but that is an edge case.

            Is that your analysis of fascism? That it exists because of Chrisitanity, and Christianity exists because someone thought of it?

            Fascism is Capitalism in decay. It’s a violent defense mechanism, not a mold that infects people’s minds. America is heading down the fascist path regardless of who is in power because Capitalism is dying.

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              2 months ago

              First bit is what has actually happened. Second bit isn’t “an analysis” and your last paragraph would have Voltare rolling, but also isn’t relevant. Out of morbid curiosity, I’d love to hear your fantasy world path forward for the country.

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                It benefits the DNC and GOP to let minor implementations of a toothless change pass so that people feel like they are making a differance.

                Second bit is absolutely analysis, you claimed fascism happens if the fascists get elected. Where did the fascists come from, and why would they get elected?

                As for a path forward, I’m a Communist, revolution is necessary. Join an org like FRSO or PSL.

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                    Communism isn’t about picking a model and copying it, that idea was abandoned in the 1800s. Engels wrote an entire essay on it, Socialism: Utopian and Scientific. We can look to AES states and see where they found success and failure, but no AES state thus far has come from anything comparable to the 2024 US Empire’s unique material conditions and productive structures, so obviously we can’t copy any one country one to one, nor would we want to.