Summary

Ukraine’s 13th National Guard Brigade conducted its first all-robot assault, using ground and aerial drones to clear Russian positions in Kharkiv Oblast.

The operation involved surveillance, explosive, and gun-armed robots, demonstrating Ukraine’s advanced military robotics.

While robots excel in surveillance and attack, their limitations in holding ground, particularly against jamming and maintenance challenges, underscore the continued importance of human infantry.

  • john89@lemmy.ca
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    Yeah, it’s happening.

    A few years ago, I was tripping and had this idea that the future of war would essentially be conducted by nerds controlling robots in command centers, far away from the actual conflict.

    The thing is, once the war was lost, the nerds would know that the enemy robots are going to come crashing through their walls at any moment to tear at their fleshy bits.

  • EleventhHour@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I very much like Ukraine and hope they win. I cheer them on for every victory I hear about.

    But this robot soldier bullshit is something I really fucking hate.

    Once you remove the human cost of war, you remove any motivation to stop war. I learned this as a kid from Star Trek S01E23 - A Taste of Armageddon

    • FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Once you remove the human cost of war

      Economic cost is still a reason to end a war. Sure, it may go on longer, but are we talking about a situation where less people get killed?

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        2 hours ago

        It’s hard to talk about an economic cost when the war is being paid for by Europe in the United States.

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      You’ll be glad to hear tens of thousands of people have already died in this war then, including innocent men, women and children. Many were tortured and/or raped first. So the human cost is absolutely massive already. No amount of robots can undo it. Hope to have eased your fears a bit.

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        I think you’re mistaking me for yourself. I do not celebrate when people die.

        And you clearly missed the point of what I just said.

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          8 hours ago

          I’d rather see a robot blown up than a Ukranian defending his homeland. If you hate robots being used by Ukrainians then the only other option is people dying.

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            8 hours ago

            That’s a strawman – – this was never a conversation of robots versus humans. If you’re actually literate, you’ll see my comment spoke of the human cost of war demotivating those from stopping it. Not about robots versus humans.

            But if you need to be dishonest in order to make your point, that shows everyone how bullshit your position is.

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              My assumption was that because you hate robot usage in warfare that you disagree with Ukraine using them in this instance, while I agree. Maybe I got it wrong, it’s a bit hard to see your point through all the ad hominems for illiterate people like me. Either way hope you have a nice day.

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                7 hours ago

                If you’re so tied up on personal criticism that you can’t see the logic of my argument, that’s your own problem. Stop blaming me for it.

                Also, stop making assumptions about strangers. You’re more often to be wrong than right.

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      8 hours ago

      Im not really sure how you think this is going to work. Do you think people like Putin care how many provincial kids he sends to their death? Maybe his oligarch buddies lay awake at night pondering the terrible human cost of their actions, considering all the compromises they might be willing to make in order alleviate this terrible suffering? Maybe the people of Moscow are just a few hundred thousand more pointless deaths away from saying enough is enough, and dragging their leaders into the streets?

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        Thank you for displaying how much you missed the point I made.

        The way you think is very small. Limited.

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          Did you ever even watch A Taste of Armageddon? The whole point was that both sides were totally fine paying an unlimited number of lives for their eternal war. There is no magical number of human deaths that will bring peace.

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            That’s definitely not what the episode was about. If you’re still confused, watch the last few minutes when Captain Kirk actually explains at all.

            Clearly, I’m not the one who never watched that episode.

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      I hear your point loud and clear, even if some people don’t. Using anonymous killing machines also removes the danger to whomever controls the robots.

      Veterans come home and talk about the horrors of war. Robots don’t.