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    “Massive protest” - a few hundred to low thousands. For a city as large as LA this barely registers as a protest. I guess its better than nothing, but look at Berlin which has roughly the same population. There the Nazis arent even a majority power yet and the recent protest was still in the 200k range. USAmericans really are indifferent huh?

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      You know, these are brave people. They probably weighted the very real possibility to be thrown away of the country if they got raid. They still protested. But they weren’t raid. Now they have shown the people can get to the streets and protest. The ICE will hardly do anything if the protests are big enough. I think there’s hope.

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      Wow what an insightful comment that adds so much to the discussion.

      I bet you weren’t at the systemically silenced protests that nobody knew were happeneing either.

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      I would have gone, but the first I heard of this was after the fact, right here on this post. You’re right, it honestly surprises me that we aren’t taking to the streets more though.

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        Personally I believe part of the problem is that corporate capture of our social interactions has effectively meant folks can’t get the word out and (sadly) they don’t realize it? Trying to organize on Facebook? That’s a mistake.

        I’m not saying it’s what happened here but there’s a possibility it’s what’s going on more broadly. And by design.

        Personally I’ve started building a tool (for the fediverse) to help make civil participation free of corporate interest. I’m sick of my town and local municipal services (and volunteer organizations) only posting to Facebook (and I’m not in the US!)

        Existing tools are, in my opinion, not widely used and too clunky to appeal to those who’ve been lulled into using big-tech solutions.

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    Why don’t they go protest where no one will notice - is what was said when pro Palestinian anti apartheid protesters did the same.

    Where are these people now?

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      Hope do you know the people protesting today were criticizing the pro Palestinian protesters? What if the same people protesting today were also protesting then?

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    Americans: look at LA and see what they are doing. these are your brothers and sisters. they know what’s at stake. they are pushing back

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    Under Trump’s new orders, ICE is now allowed to target migrants at sensitive locations, like schools and churches, for arrests and potential deportations.

    And FUCKING HOSPITALS. And quizzing people about their immigration status when they seek help for a medical emergency.

    It would have taken fewer words to just not excise hospitals from your partial list of “sensitive locations,” but I can see why you wouldn’t want to talk about it. It’s real fucked up.

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        Police do not have freedom to easily arrest people at large protests. This whole protest was breaking the law at various points and the article didn’t even know if anyone has been arrested.

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            If you want for the police to get an excuse to mow you down with a tank that is. They so wish some of you have guns so they can kill you and have a ready and ironclad excuse

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              It’s not like they’re above shooting unarmed protestors. Just compare how cops dealt with cop city with the Bundy occupation.

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      At this point why not just go out to farmlands and take people right out of the fields mid-work. See how that goes.

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    No matter how bad it gets, people still show up. Love that “Don’t bite the hands that feed you” sign.

    If anyone’s interested, the Red Card resource mentioned in the news coverage “created by the Immigrant Legal Resource Center (ILRC) and are available in 16 languages from Spanish to Haitian Creole to Tigrinya.” Anyone wanting to leave these lying around, you don’t need to order them. Just buy a few business card printer sheets and DIY. …

    “It’s important to know that a lot of productive activity is happening in person and offline, too. Not all of it can be broadcast online, but we’ve had hundreds of people showing up to our trainings, mobilizations, and more. Keep going. Tyranny is eroded by a sea of small acts. Everything matters.” - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, sometime yesterday

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    I overheard (coworker on break) a video saying ICE in NYC was only targeting criminals and gang members. So far I haven’t found a real source for that ‘fact’

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      I mean, if it were the 1950s, that would be kind of believable, but it’s been like 75 years of this BS.

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      Trump decided to include anyone that is in the country illegally in the criminal category, and I’m sure they can find an even wider brush to paint with down the line (participate in an unsanctioned protest? Criminal! Say something bad about Trump? Criminal!).

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      You won’t either because they’ve already done shenanigans including detaining an entire American family from Puerto Rico.

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      This has been amended to “there may be some collateral arrests” which mean anyone near their target who’s brown and first language isn’t English is getting rounded up too

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      Well they say they are - so that means they are! And they know who all the criminals and gang members are without needing a trial too! ICE is amazing!

      /s because we’re in that timeline.

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      I was just coming to say this, Trump is delighted people are taking to the streets to blame California and Newsom for his ICE gestapo raids. I mean I get you want to take to the streets to vent your fear and anger pushing for change, but to gridlock Los Angeles for something neither LA nor California want and are working as hard as they can to prevent, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Buses to DC, to camp out in the tens of thousands would be more meaningful, though a great many of these people are probably targets of ICE in the frist pace, and that’d just be rounding themselves rounding them all up, and if they showed up in force to DC, Trump would deport them all, US citizens or not.

      After having a little rethink, I get it now, Los Angeles is the safest place they can protest like this in these numbers. I support this.

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    (Anyone else here (also) because the thumbnail looked like there was a diplodoc type of skeleton on the bridge?)