• Serinus@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    We did not as a nation

    You sure like to cherry pick what counts for “as a nation”. The fact is we sent significant supplies and support to Europe throughout the war.

    I can’t find a source for percentage support for the Nazis. While it existed, it seems to be pretty minor. Even the infamous Madison Square Garden rally has more to the story.

    It bears mentioning that while there were 20,000 enthusiastic American Nazis inside the venue, there were also thousands of protesters outside. The anti-Nazi contingent included everyone from veterans to housewives to members of the Socialist Workers Party. The New York Times reported that the streets of midtown Manhattan were packed, and at one point the orchestra from a Broadway musical near Madison Square Garden performed a rendition of “The Star-Spangled Banner” for the protesters. A mysterious crusader even set up a loudspeaker in a rooming house near the scene and blasted a denunciation of the Nazis out the window: “Be American, Stay at Home.” The New York Police Department had deployed a record number of 1,700 officers around Madison Square Garden, enough “to stop a revolution,” the police commissioner said.

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      we sent significant supplies

      By “sent” you mean lent or sold. The US made a profit off the Lend Lease war programme. The UK was still paying them back decades later.

      You’re right about the US doing the same to Ukraine. That’s been touted as a Lend Lease situation as well.

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      Let me make sure I got your argument correct before we continue. You’re arguing that the country that didn’t even desegregate their schools a hundred years ago had “pretty minor” support for white supremacists even before they were literally forced by the military under a progressive president to allow black people to attend their schools, because only 20,000 people attended one nazi rally in the time before the internet or interstate system, when word spread by mouth or by local newspaper.

      That’s some straight up white historical revisionism.

      If you were actually interested in the truth, which I very highly doubt you are, because Americans tend to suppress any criticism of their historical racism, I would suggest you read Hitler’s American Friends: The Third Reich’s Supporters in the United States by Bradley Hart. The American history with and love of nazism is glossed over or often ignored, because the whole idea of the grand stand against fascism is the greatest story we tell ourselves. It’s mostly propaganda, and people like you go along with it because it makes you uncomfortable to address the fact that the US would have willingly joined the nazis if it weren’t for the president standing in the way of things.

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        1 day ago

        People like Bradley Hart write books like that as a cautionary tale. People like you just abuse any chance you get to shit on America.

        There’s better unethical stuff in South America. You should spend your efforts there.

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              1 day ago

              I didn’t call you a Nazi. The implication was, you were a liberal. Fascism has historically not been much of a threat or concern for you lot.

              Which is why the US and Europe is in the predicament they’re in.