• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    I’ll vote Democrat as long as the alternative is fascism.

    Unfortunately, much of what the Democrats represent is fascism.

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      17 hours ago

      Depends on what you mean by “much”? I’d argue the Democrats, on the whole, are liberals, not fascists.

      I’d certainly prefer progressives and leftists though.

      The support for Israel whole they genocide Palestine, thought… ugh. That can certainly be viewed as fascism, although where you draw the distinction between fascism and imperialism is up for debate. Not that imperialism is good either, just saying.

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        16 hours ago

        Liberals are the only people in history to vote for fascists to prevent class solidarity, and they’ve done it every time.

        If you scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds.

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          5 hours ago

          So conservatives are… what? Not a group of people? Or in your view, are conservatives just fascists already?

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            5 hours ago

            Conservative liberals have the same ideology as liberals, just the pace is different. American politics have fucked too many people’s brains.

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              4 hours ago

              Yeah, I don’t buy that. Liberalism and Conservatism have different ideological foundations, philosophical traditions, and political histories.

              If you don’t know the difference, that’s on you.

              I have to make a lot of leaps to guess what you mean by “conservative liberal”. Do you mean a modern “social liberal economic conservative”? Aka a neoliberal?

              Cuz yeah US Dems and Repubs are almost all economically neoliberal, sure. Is that what you mean?

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                4 hours ago

                There are no conservatives from conservatism in the US, and there never has been. There might be a few in the future, depending on how far towards monarchism the south goes when the US balkanizes, but certainly none now.

                Both Republicans and Dems are neoliberals, yes, before that they were just liberals. One being for the rapid advancement of society, one being for a conservative advancement of society.

                If you don’t know that, that’s on you.

                But you are the perfect example of a brain fucked American that believes your politics fit anywhere else in the world, or can compare to anyone else’s political movements.