Ok so this is likely one of my wierder experiences with the fediverse and is a bit of a story that ends with something wierd with https://piefed.social/topic/chilling/comics?sort=new&layout=list - So to sorta start this off I rarely post but had taken to posting a comic I like called devils panties to comicstrips@lemmy.world. One day when I clicked on replies to the comic I was getting 404 pages and I could not find the comic anymore. There was no notification or anything that it was removed but I checked the sidebar rules and it did not seem to break any. So I posted again and the same thing came back. I suspected that things can be removed without notice or such or just maybe something was breaking so posted to comics@lemmy.ml and that went fine. I changed to posting to comics@lemmy.ml but then noticed that the comic was being posted by someone else to comicstrips@lemmy.world. It did not show up greyed so it presumably was not a bot. I figured I would bow out as I was going to stop posting once I got a job as when working I tend to not be able to really get to anything even small like this (im not a good waker upper and I tend to be toast after work). The next day though no post was done by the other user so late before I went to bead I did the lemmy.ml post and one hour later it appeared in lemmy.world. Its been pretty consistantly one hour after. Anyway the whole thing made me feel pretty wierd but then today its sorta on another level. When perusing https://piefed.social/topic/chilling/comics?sort=new&layout=list I see the duplicates the user does to lemmy.world but I don’t see my original posts to lemmy.ml but I do see another comic posted to lemmy.ml and if I go directly to comics@lemmy.ml I see my post. Anyone have any idea whats going on???

  • OpenStars@piefed.social
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    8 days ago

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so in a way they are being helpful - just as you are trying to share the OG artist’s work with a wider audience, so too cm0002@lemmy.world is doing the same, spreading the comic beyond where you posted it.

    I took a look and by most metrics, the Lemmy.world community is like an order of magnitude larger than the Lemmy.ml one - e.g. 5.8k users per week in the former compared to 0.6k in the latter.

    So you might consider cross-posting the comic there yourself - not that I’m pushing you to actually do so, just wanting to offer it as a thought, and to help see the potential reasoning for the actions of the other side.

    I’ve blocked that user myself in the past, now unblocked but with a warning label next to their username so I can remind myself not to take their comments too seriously when they get overly argumentative. I love that PieFed allows me to have the best of both ways there: I can enjoy their posts, and even enjoy lightly interacting, without worrying about being sucked too deep into an unproductive argument.:-)

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      8 days ago

      I mean that would be great if the user did it on his own. Initially I stopped posting feeling that someone maybe took up the baton. He only does it if I post though and that is annoying. So if I don’t the comic does not get shared at all but if I do it gets replicated. I stopped posting to lemmy.world due to presumably the mod for comicstrips removing the comic about the protest. I don’t feel comfortable having some of the artists works taken down arbitrarily when it did not break the rules and since the fediverse does not currently let me know in a way I can communicate with the mod I can’t get it cleared up. Basically I treat the fediverse like physical communities. That bar with the bouncer who is wierd with my favorite shirt even though it does not break dress code. Im going to the bar down the street. So im not going to that bar anymore. This is just a combination of things that cause a bad effect. I did contact the user who does the wierd copy thing and asked that they stop either proactively just posting the comic even if I don’t or not copy pasting or whatever he is doing with my posts. For now im going to wait for a response and then depending play around with posting and not posting.

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        8 days ago

        Yeah the Lemmy software is somehow even more authoritian than Reddit was, as you are seeing. There’s a modlog but no modmail, no way to ask questions or appeal, especially when the modlog simply says that it was done by a “mod” - who can you DM in that case for more details? Especially in situations where the stated reason for removal is not clear - e.g. if it’s not a real one but just a cover done by a power tripping mod (or admin).

        Speaking of, there is a reason that cm0002@lemmy.world goes on tirades against lemmy.ml: bc that instance in particular is extremely pro-authoritian, but in odd ways that they never straight up tell you, leaving you to discover it on your own. Btw did you see the modlog reasons given for removal of some of your content there? You are apparently a “landlord defender” - mind you, whether that is true or not is entirely beside the point, the issue is that you are labelled as a Westerner, and so you don’t fit in with the pro-Russian & pro-Chinese agenda on that instance.

        You will increasingly find these issues becoming annoyances, until eventually you are banned from the entire instance outright. Or at least that’s what happens to most people.

        Before that happens, you might want to switch to start posting to !comicstrips@lemmy.world yourself, rather than !comics@lemmy.ml, which for this reason, and because as I mentioned previously the former is significantly larger than the latter, and now also to mention a third reason this would also have a side benefit of taking over what cm0002@lemmy.world is currently doing, by you doing it yourself directly.

        So, I hope these thoughts stimulate your thinking about what you might want to do.:-) There are definitely multiple issues involved.

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            7 days ago

            I’m missing something: what does that user have to do with that community, besides being a fellow poster to it, just like you? If you are going to block them, then you could post to either community - do whatever you want, regardless of what they choose to do:-). Also if you did post to lemmy.world rather than lemmy.ml, I would guess that doing so would break the bot, which works to cross-post from ML to LW, not from LW to LW.

            My goal here isn’t to tell you what to do, but to offer the knowledge of how to be free to do as you choose:-).

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              7 days ago

              there were several seperate things. I used to post to lemmy.world until presumably a mod removed a comic about the artist going to a protest. I did not really know what was going on at the time but guessed it was being removed as it happened again when I posted again. I then posted to the second largest comic community at lemmy.ml and it stayed up. So it became my main community for the stuff. The other user may have been doing the stuff before with replicating posts although I have seen plenty of posts that are on lemmy.ml that do not get replicated to lemmy.world. So no idea whats going on there and I have yet to hear back from pinging them. Lastly I would see the doubles in the topic and then after the recent change I would only see theirs which prompted this posting of mine. So regardless comcistrips@lemmy.world is verbotem to me due to presumably the actions of a mod. I do the postings for now to comics@lemmy.ml but with the change to piefed combined with that wierd notabot automated poster user I am not sure if I want to continue. I was told that blocking them would at least let me see my posts in the topic. If I don’t hear from the user I will block them so that it does not irritate me as much.

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                7 days ago

                I am sorry this is happening to you! Yeah, Lemmy.World is fairly authoritian itself, and while usually it is still far less so than Lemmy.ml, this is one time where it seems that is not true.

                Blocking the user seems like it will help restore your joy at having posted it, and hopefully PieFed can make some changes in the future to help make such cross-posts more visible where it came from.

                Maybe all these details are interesting to know more about how federation and such work, or perhaps it’s the opposite and you don’t care, but either way the most important thing is that you now know how to move forward to achieve your aim:-).

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                  7 days ago

                  oh im someone who always like knowing more. Im so glad I posted this as I went from having a vague feeling of what was going on to being pretty sure of it all. Its been great.