• smokingpistol@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    Look if you’re talking about the 200 people that were sent there OK you got a point. But what about all the other people in there?

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      5 days ago

      Okay apparently they do have a semblance of due process so that’s my mistake, but I mean look at this shit.

      The order, which was initially set to last thirty days but has been extended 31 times,[40] suspended the rights of association and legal counsel, increased the amount of time that persons may be detained without being charged from three days to fifteen, and permitted the government to monitor citizens’ communications without warrants.[39] However, Salvadoran law enforcement was accused of violating even the expanded limits of their powers.[30][38] The government also restricted the ability of judges to offer prisoners alternatives to pre-trial detention, like bail and house arrest.

      Members of Nuevas Ideas passed new rules that increase prison sentences for convicted gang lords to forty to forty-five years (previously six to nine) and twenty to thirty years for other members (previously three to five)[29] and reduce the age of criminal responsibility, previously sixteen years old,[41] to twelve.[42] They also passed a law that threatens anyone who reproduces or disseminates messages from gangs, including news media, with ten to fifteen years in prison.[43]

      -Wikipedia.

      There’s no guarantee at all that all or even most of those people are actually gang members, because the processes and legal rights that would guarantee that have been suspended for three years. You’ve been under a state of emergency for three whole years. I understand that you’re sick of gang violence, but here’s a piece of advice from someone with firsthand experience: No gang is worse than an authoritarian government. At least you can fight the gangs if push comes to shove. Wait no scratch that, an authoritarian government, with no exaggeration, a gang that also has access to a full-fledged military force.

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        5 days ago

        I was recently just in El Salvador, The state of exemption has been rolled over many times But the people there are happy. What you are reading and what reality is is a little different I understand when you read it it seems like “oh shit this isn’t oppressive country” But that’s not the case. This was in place during the election that Bukele won by 85% of the vote. The reason they dropped the age for crimes committed is because the older gang members would purposely get young kids to do their Dirt because they knew that they would get a slap on the wrist compared to what would happen to them. It’s easy to criticize a place when you never stepped foot in it and I’m not saying you I’m saying people in general. If the people there are happy the people that live there the people that wake up there every day then our opinion doesn’t matter

        If you have time do a little research on this gang. In this case this government is way better to have than the gangs. You couldn’t fight back against them you would die, They literally controlled everything. Salesman Or taxi drivers that had to work in the places they had control of had to pay extortions not even the police could go into those areas it was bad like really bad. The amount of murders a day were astronomical. There was no fighting back against these guys. The last few Presidents would even make deals with these gangs and obviously they never worked out. It is said that Bukele Also made a deal with them but after a weekend of I believe 75 murders or something like that is When the government put their foot down and that’s how they got to where they are today. Now my father is basically live in there half the year because he recently retired and trust me that would’ve not been possible before