• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    1 day ago

    Except for Obama, I have never been excited by anyone I’ve ever voted for. I still vote every time, because that’s the only way any progress gets made.

    And if you think no progress has been made, look at all the things Trump is trying to get rid of.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      The amount of progress that was made has never, in my entire 40+ years of existence, been enough. And it will never be enough because Democrats lose power every couple years because they’re not an organized political party and don’t bother doing things that will ensure people’s lives are substantively affected by it.

      Then the Republicans win and undo all the progress, and Democrats get to whine about how they can’t stop it because they’re not in the majority, unlike how the Republicans get their way when they’re in the minority.

      I’m not gonna stop voting, though, because each election, no matter who wins, shows how awful this country really is and how fucked we are.

      • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        23 hours ago

        It’s only going to get worse if people decide that voting doesn’t matter.

        Remember, both sides are the same is music to the GOPs ears.

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          23 hours ago

          It’s only going to get worse if people decide that voting doesn’t matter

          FTFY

          And both sides aren’t the same. Republicans are clearly way better at winning elections and implementing their platform.

          • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            22 hours ago

            Gay Marriage.

            Obamacare

            The Americans With Disabilities Act.

            Change for good is possible.

            “Both sides are the same” only helps the GOP.

            • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              edit-2
              22 hours ago

              First-past-the-post voting helps the GOP. That’s why they are passing legislation to protect it on states they control.

              So why are blue states still using it?

            • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              22 hours ago

              Meanwhile Republicans have a 136 page blueprint ready to go when they take office to undo all of that. And when one steps out of line they take them behind the woodshed to keep the party in lock step.

              I never said they were the same. I said Republicans are wayyyy better at getting their shit done.

            • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              20 hours ago

              You’re right. Both sides aren’t the same. One side are Nazis. The other are Nazi collaborators.

              They’re objectively different, but that ain’t saying much.

        • procapra@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          23 hours ago

          I voted for Claudia Delacruz. As long as there is someone on the ballot that represents my views better than the democrats, I will vote for them. I voted some greens, I voted some democrats, I voted some independents. That is the extent of the voting I will do. Voting left every single time.

            • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              9
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              22 hours ago

              Your state should pass electoral reform and get rid of First-past-the-post voting so republicans can’t do that then!

              How the solution became “vote for my person even if they don’t represent you” and not “hey this voting system is broken and republicans are exploiting it. Lets fix it.” Is beyond all reason.

              I’m not even a smart person, and i can see the solution. What is your state’s excuse?

              • VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                4 hours ago

                How the solution became “vote for my person even if they don’t represent you” and not “hey this voting system is broken and republicans are exploiting it. Lets fix it.” Is beyond all reason.

                When you realize Democrats are just blue MAGA it makes more sense. They’ve become entirely “any vote (or lack of vote) that isn’t blue is wrong and you’re a piece of shit,” despite their candidates mirroring early 2000 Republicans.

                It’d be hilarious how unprincipled Democrats are if they werent the only option next to fascists

            • procapra@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              21 hours ago

              Too bad. I’m not voting for your people. I’ll vote for the party that represents my interests, which is how this is supposed to work

          • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            22 hours ago

            That’s not going to happen before the next election.

            Focus on what is in front of us right now.

              • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 hours ago

                There is literally no way to change the election system right now. Check with your local board of elections if you think I’m lying.

                • VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  3 hours ago

                  There’s literally no way to send someone on American soil to El Salvador without due process. Check the Constitution if you think I’m lying. Still happened.

                  Stop pretending we have to work within the system as if the system works for us.

                  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    3 hours ago

                    Angelina Jolie can get paid $1 million for an hour’s work. You and I can’t do that.

                    Some things are possible and others aren’t.

            • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              20 hours ago

              We’ve been focusing on the next election for decades at this point. At some point you need to recognize the insanity of doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result.