• Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    2 days ago

    Drag will always err on the side of assuming nonhuman entities are capable of feeling. Enslaving black people is wrong, enslaving animals is wrong, and enslaving AIs is wrong. Drag assumes they can feel so that drag will never make the same mistake so many people have already made.

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      2 days ago

      assuming nonhuman entities are capable of feeling. Enslaving black people is wrong,

      yeah we’re done here. no, LLMs don’t think. no, you’re not doing a favor to marginalized people by acting like they do, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. in fact, you’re doing the dirty work of the fascists who own this shitty technology by rebroadcasting their awful fucking fascist ideology, and I gave you ample opportunity to read up and understand what you were doing. but you didn’t fucking read! you decided you needed to debate from a position where LLMs are exactly the same as marginalized and enslaved people because blah blah blah who in the fuck cares, you’re wrong and this isn’t even an interesting debate for anyone who’s at all familiar with the nature of the technology or the field that originated it.

      now off you fuck

      • fullsquare@awful.systems
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        1 day ago

        lmao really all are equal on awful. ban in three replies for ai boosterism, but not for weird harassment or murder-suicide encouragement, which happened to that user after muchhh longer time elsewhere

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          14 hours ago

          post or DM links if I’m missing something. there’s lots of questionable shit in dragonfucker’s post history, but the fedidrama bits are impossible to follow if you don’t read Lemmy (why in fuck would I, all the good posts are local)

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            3 hours ago

            well for one it looks like that wasn’t one off and more of a pattern. i remember this one https://lemmy.world/post/25606000/15124978 and i’ve heard of this one https://lemmy.cafe/post/13433291/9941167 also in modlog you can see that that account was mass-banned from ml subs just five days ago so it’s not some ancient incident

            awful is great and i’m glad that it’s a thing, but there’s entire world beyond it, and to go there, i curate a shitlist (now less intensely than previously). this can tell you to avoid things like any pleroma instance, for example (and if it was up to me, i’d defederate by default from them)

            • David Gerard@awful.systemsOPM
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              43 minutes ago

              right right, but we only see these bozos when they show up locally

              mind you there’s been more than one illustrious poster I’ve banned preemptively

              but frankly life is too short in most cases

    • froztbyte@awful.systems
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      2 days ago

      even though I get the idea you’re trying to go for, really fucking ick way to make your argument starting from “nonhuman entities” and then literally immediately mentioning enslaving black folks as the first example of bad behaviour

      as to cautious erring: that still leaves you in the position of being used as a useful idiot