• SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    These houses are heavily subsidized by the lowest property taxes on the continent, and one of the lowest in the world. They can enjoy the increases in land value and not have to pay their fair share in taxes. Meanwhile, these same people fight tooth and nail to make it hard to increase density for others. I have little sympathy for them. They should downsize their home if they’re not using the space.

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      I don’t disagree that A) these people live incredibly privileged lives and are reaping the benefits of an economic period that will never come back and B) increasing housing density should be a priority across pretty much the whole Western World. I just disagree with the argument that the solution to this is simply forcing private homeowners to host unhoused people.

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        Great, but no one is proposing what you’re opposed to.

        What I’m saying is that they’re able to hoard their huge homes all to themselves, without having renters, because we subsidize them to do so. They should be paying for the increase in land value with higher taxes. Instead they get to profit from increasing land value, deny other people a place to live, and, to top it off, not pay the fair price in taxes for all that unused space. Would correcting that be “forcing” them to quarter people? Obviously not.

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          1 year ago

          Did you read the title of this post? That’s exactly what’s being implied. If anything, you’re moving the goalposts in the discussion.

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            No, I gave you a concrete example of how we can also change the perverse incentives. Your insistence that the most plausible alternative is “forced quartering” is ridiculous.

            Also, stop using sock puppet accounts to upvote yourself and downvote me. There’s no way you posted a comment and someone instantly upvoted you 1 second later.

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              You’re delusional lmao and your concrete example had no relevancy to my comment or the subject of this post

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                What don’t you understand? Homeowners now are financially incentivized to leave their homes empty. That doesn’t have to be the case. Literally no one except you is talking about “forced quartering”.

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            1 year ago

            Why not say “homeless” since there is no such word as “unhoused”?

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              Well, there is such a word, you’ve just encountered it.

              As for why, I guess each person might have different motivations to use it but I’d say the more probable one is an attempt to emphasize that the lack of housing is something inflicted on people, hence the use of X-ed (victim) instead of X-less (attribute). Someone can choose to be homeless (like nomads), but the unhoused are so against their will. Similar to preferring marginalized over minority, or impoverished over poor.

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                That means you want to pervert and distort linguistic rules to to cater to people’s arrogance. In normal English, people only say minorities or the poor. Saying a homeless person is a victm encourages narcassism and gives them a cop-out excuse from accountability, and showsvyou don’t believe a person’s suffering is justified due their own choices. That’s why humility is the most important character trait a person can develop.

                Calling a homeless person a victim oppresses them because it shows that you believe they cannot overcome, conquer their situation, and be successful without hand outs from anyone else. If you truly encouraged someone’s potential to conquer hardship with internal fortitude you hold them accountable, forget about what hapoened and focus on what will be.

                No person can have a successful future if they don’t earn it thrugh merit, and no person can be successful as long as they are a victim of the past.

                Stop feeding the victim mentality that only serves to sabatoge them and start helping to educate a homeless person in what work they have to do and what moves they have to make if they want to become wealthy and finanxially independent one day so their days of being homeless can be nothing but a bad memory and not a circumstance that will always be with them and keeps rhem trapped and pulled down.

                Anytime a homeless person becomes a millionaire, they are a great leader that can lead society into the next generation of millionaires.

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                Oh, you are a stunted pretntious grandious infantile.

                Those are all actual words with dictionary definitions that you can look up in the dictionary of your choice.

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                  What has you so angry here? Your lack of recognition of a word doesn’t deligimitze it. New words are invented all the time to describe changing circumstances. You realize you’re on an experimental platform full of “words” like fediverse and activitypub, right?

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                  If your definition of “words that exist” is having them on dictionaries, then we’re still good because there are dictionaries that include unhoused already.