They’re definitely gonna go after the wayback machine next, because what use is there in controlling social media and deleting what bothers them, if there’s freely accessible records of it somewhere else?
The archive needs to be protected at all costs.
AGreed
The archive needs to be decentralized. It must become immortal by ascending into the network itself.
I wonder if and how wanting to protect the Wayback machine is compatible with the overall sentiment (on Lemmy) that people need all necessary means to protect their privacy. Wouldn’t people who want that users can protect their privacy also be against the Wayback machine?
You can already ask the Internet Archive to take down a content if you can proof the content is yours (e.g. can’t just buy an old domain and demand the internet archive to delete the archived contents put up by the past owners). People also regularly ask them to take down harmful contents as well.
(e.g. can’t just buy an old domain and demand the internet archive to delete the archived contents put up by the past owners)
This is false. My father owned a particular domain that transferred ownership to me. I was able to pull down stuff from prior to my ownership just fine without providing any evidence.
Wait, you just asked the Internet Archive to take down stuff, and they complied without asking for proof of ownership? This seems to run counter with their own guidelines.
Not a good idea for three reasons:
- the assumption that this will stop lawsuits is very generous, especially when we consider that there are other countries than the US that have lawyers and IP too
- putting such an important task in the hands of a government that might be controlled by whatever extremist possible in the future is a bad idea; who controls the past, controls the future and parties could delete parts of the past at their will
- a less dystopian thought: future governments might simply cut the funding or restrict the archive to US content only because “why shouod they pay for other contries’ history?”
A legislative approach that protects what the archive does would be a much more reasonable approach.
Totally agree with you. These things need to be preserved in some way like physical media.
Kinda sounds like we need a decentralized, feterated internet archive for at least each nation and maybe individuals… Or maybe I just want to federate almost everything ^^’
who controls the past, controls the future
I think the more relevant bit here is that whoever controls the present, controls the past.
1,000 words just to say “the Library of Congress should acquire the Internet Archive.” Not a bad idea, but man. Sometimes your bosses are really pushy about the wordcount, eh, Lance?
What if the internet archives, instead of a single site, was a bunch of federated instances sharing content with each other like fediverse?
I am of course very ignorant to how internet archives actually works, and not very tech savy, but would something like I’m suggesting be theoretically possible?
Yeah that was my first thought too. That seems like a way better idea than just entrusting it to the Library of Congress as the article suggests. For one thing, the internet archive isn’t just American stuff. For another, there’s no way the government won’t just bend over backwards as soon as a big corporation asks it to. Thirdly, it seems like a much better idea to keep it decentralized and to keep the corporations playing whack-a-mole with it than to just keep giving them one big, static target to aim at.
Even if we just decentralised/federated the Wayback Machine, that would really be great.
It’s already working like that, at least on the indexer side. You can create an account and use their app or browser extensions and start snapshotting websites you visit and submit them to the wayback machine. Storage is still centralized in The Internet Archive datacenter though.
The internet archive has bedn under attack from lawsuites basically since it exists and it’s still going strong, I agree that it’s a important resource worth lreserving tho!
It’s the single most awesome website that exists, and of course people want to take it down. These ghouls will stop at nothing
There’s another, but I’m not mentioning the name so they don’t go after that one too.
A Second Archive, you say? Out in the unmapped portion of the web?
Really deep imagery with this photo. A real artistic creation.
This is actually really disturbing to me. I normally don’t get involved in anything, but this seems like a winnable fight and it really bothers me for some reason the idea of the Internet Archive being destroyed.
Copyright infringement strike against the Internet Archive. I’ve saved a lot of Internet Archive links as evidence that something happened or existed. I really don’t like the idea of it going away.
What can I do to help this situation go the right way? Where is this lawsuit being taken? Are there courtroom proceedings going on?
Read all through that article, then all through the comments, to find a donation link. There wasn’t one so link for the lazy - https://archive.org/donate/
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I… I don’t know that it can be
I still don’t understand why IA picked a fight with publishers with the emergency library.
IA provides a really valuable service and they’re an incredibly juicy target. Going on anti-copyright crusades isn’t their mission.
Is there a Plan B if the fight is lost? Move it to another country, probably in the EU, that has a better legal environment? Or some other answer? Because with the current political climate in the US this is far from guaranteed to be won, and the consequences of losing it are dire
I’m not sure that the EU will stand up to IP holders here either. You probably need to move it to a dodgy developing nation with no respect for IP rights like a lot of the pirate sites do.
