• specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    When they don’t do the things they say they will do, that makes them a liar.

    There are times when a promise can’t be fulfilled. It has become wildly more difficult for Democratic priorities to pass through the legislative process in the last 25 years as Republicans have used more and more obstructive tactics. I think a very good case could be made that Republicans have tilted the table enough to completely block a Democratic agenda even if they took Congress and the Presidency.

    Lisa Murkowski got fucked by her own party literally this week. She negotiated and got legislation passed, only for Trump to basically line item veto it with an executive order.

    And I’m so old I can remember when the Supreme Court struck down the line item veto. How can you possibly get an agenda through when there are no rules but what the Roberts court says there is?

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      19 days ago

      When people promise me things and don’t fulfill them i consider that a broken promise.

      I have no sympathy for Dems who take power and then whine that their hands are tied.

      Maybe they should let someone with balls be in power if they want to change things.

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          19 days ago

          It would look like a Democrat that tells their rich doners they they are going to be forced to make concessions.

          There has been tens of trillions of dollars funneled to a group of less than 5,000 people over the last 50 years.

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      19 days ago

      I think you’re giving Republicans way too much credit. Democrats are completely incapable of unifying on anything important, and that’s why they don’t get their stuff through. They need better leadership if they’re going to get anything done.

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          19 days ago

          Basically whatever the Republicans are doing, but on the opposite side of policy. Get candidates that people actually like and push popular policy. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden weren’t it, neither was an infrastructure bill or whatever it was Harris pushed for. Get people excited and rally the party around them.

          The best shot dems had recently was Bernie Sanders, but they sandbagged him in favor of Hillary Clinton.

          But no, dems instead prefer infighting.

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            19 days ago

            I largely agree with you. The Democratic party is a disaster. The evergreen tactic of throwing the coalition under the bus in order tack to the middle for some imagined Reagan Democrat vote that doesn’t exist is infuriating and the policy that results is dogshit.

            The only part I would argue with is that Old Joe ended up with policy that looked a whole lot more progressive than I thought he ever would. I think he deserves a lot of credit for trying. If he could have defended his policy with the voice of a young modern progressive, people would think much higher of his accomplishments.

            But yea, I agree with you.