I’d rather not speak Ill of the dead… So I’ll be quiet.

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    I don’t necessarily mourn the person, I do mourn the character, I mourn what that character meant for professional wrestling, Hulkamania catapulted wrestling into what we know today, helped bring about Mania, the nWo leads and the Monday Night Wars, that gets us the Attitude Era, which leads to wrestling being a cultural phenomenon we’ll likely never see again. I mourn that, I truly do.

    Yet… Hogan made a career out of telling people to be moral All-American people, behind the scenes he was a union buster, complicit in a steroid scandal, held up others for his own gain, helped destroy a company he knew nothing about, turned out to be a racist and when he was finally allowed to return it’s reported he was telling people not he was sorry just don’t get caught on camera, his daughter quit talking to him because he only wanted a relationship on his terms, he went full Trump, all around he was not upholding the principles of Hulkamania. As a human I mostly find him distasteful, but not to go full on like some did today, Holy Beelzebub I dislike a some of you today even if I understand the sentiment.

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      Nah, fuck him. In truth, he helped to create the hellscape we all live in now, first through his wrestling career, then through the Gawker lawsuit, and then from helping Donald Trump get elected (by speaking at the RNC, among other things). He deserves every ounce of vile and venom this community can give to him.

      It’s fair to mourn your childhood hero and all, but that Hogan was dead for a long time already, in the graveyard of the myths we outgrow next to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

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      Look at it this way:

      Terry Bollea, the racist, fascist, union-busting, habitual liar, is dead.

      Hulkamania, being a real American, fighting for what’s right for every man, saying your prayers and taking your vitamins, never dies.

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    even the most distasteful goes back into the earth and is worm food. maybe he can come back as something not hateful?

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    I’d rather not speak Ill of the dead… So I’ll be quiet.

    I’ll do it.

    Hulk Hogan was a narcissistic, racist, hypocritical piece of shit.

    In the words of the immortal Sheiky Baby: FUCK THE HULK HOGAN, FUCKING removed!

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    David Bixenspan:

    "Oh my God.

    I just realized.

    HULK HOGAN DIED ON THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER/RADAR ONLINE STORY THAT EXPOSED HIM AS A RACIST.

    That’s…insane."

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    It’s ok to speak ill of shitty people, even when they’re dead. They deserve no respect.

  • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Correction: Terry Bollea, who portrayed Hulk Hogan, has died. The Hulkster was way cooler than Terry. Terry said racist things, took Peter Thiel’s money to bankrupt Gawker, and was a MAGA.

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        FUCK Gawker.

        Yes. But also, fuck billionaires throwing around money to destroy things that they don’t like (Thiel was pissed at Gawker for publicizing that he was gay, which, while kinda fucked up, also shouldn’t allow someone to destroy a media outlet with their money).

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          They weren’t destroyed by the money. I’m sure the expensive lawyers helped, but Gawker’s actions killed Gawker. Literally all they had to do was pull down the sex tape. Instead they refused and wrote a fucking article about how they were refusing.

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            Money was a big factor. The lawsuit would not have happened or had as much chance of success without being bankrolled by Thiel. Gawker’s actions were disgusting and likely criminal, but US courts overwhelmingly favor businesses over individuals, unless said individuals have deep pockets.

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              This is a failure of the system, and I’m glad it was (momentarily) corrected, even if by someone as odious as Thiel. We can celebrate a good outcome regardless. Would that this shit wasn’t necessary, obviously, but I’ll take the wins where I can.

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          Nah, publishing revenge porn of someone in direct defiance of court orders, multiple times, should be enough to get that done, it’s a shame that Thiel’s money was needed when it should have come free with the justice system.

          Thiel is a piece of shit and an actual lunatic super villain but he was in the right on that one.

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            Honestly, I feel like this is one of the few places “both sides are bad” works. Gawker was a bunch of fucking creeps and also incredibly fucking stupid, but that doesn’t make Thiel or Hogan any less of fucking monsters.

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            Agreed but with the caveat that Thiel’s money should not have been able to influence it one way or another. It should have been a criminal case resulting in end of business license.

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              Yeah exactly, Thiel’s opinion and power should not have been factors but Gawker should not have existed by that point in the first place so karma and all that.

              2 abuses of power cancelled eachother out.

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                thiel was the sole reason he even won the lawsuit, which means terry dint have much of a case agains thim in the first place.

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                  Publishing pornography of someone without their consent is a crime.

                  The justice system sided with Hogan in the end and unless you’re alleging bribery that’s not a matter of who paid, but that the trial was brought to its conclusion instead of settling out of court because the multinational publishing corporation won the money fight, something enabled by Thiel’s money, but also something that shouldn’t have been necessary in the first place.