Are you actually a black person in real life? This sounds like white-knighting but correct me if I’m wrong. If you wanted to talk about appropriating sacred symbols or minimizing centuries of suffering that’s one thing but…language is meant to be used? Is the goal here to make some sort of insular language community that is inscrutable to outsiders?
hey so, as a trans person who sometimes sees cis people trying to “defend” the trans community in unwanted and unhelpful ways - could you like, ask someone who’s black first if what you’re doing is helpful? especially things like this
because it looks to me that you could be misinterpreting the issue and possibly causing more harm than good
No, because asking black people for every specific situation is putting more labour on them and probably would cause them more harm.
Those of us who were raised in white ‘culture’ need to listen to black people (as we have) and call this stuff out or in. It shouldn’t be black people’s job all the time to either or both call it out/in or answer our inane questions.
We are also trans and would not want to explain every specific situation either, it would get overwheling, and we wouldn’t feel very good having to see every transphobic etc instance either. It should be on cis people who understand to stand up for us. Sadly they likely would get pushback from other cis people also, but that shouldn’t stop them.
so you just assumed black people want you to do something, without ever asking or confirming if that’s what they want because you don’t want them to experience more “labour” and “harm”.
That’s the definition of white knighting, and is incredibly patronising. Do better
Also, you as a white american might not think that you have any meaningful culture, idc about that. But do not make blanket statments implying the entire race of white people have no culture because what?
Are you actually a black person in real life? This sounds like white-knighting but correct me if I’m wrong. If you wanted to talk about appropriating sacred symbols or minimizing centuries of suffering that’s one thing but…language is meant to be used? Is the goal here to make some sort of insular language community that is inscrutable to outsiders?
No, we just listen to black people.
hey so, as a trans person who sometimes sees cis people trying to “defend” the trans community in unwanted and unhelpful ways - could you like, ask someone who’s black first if what you’re doing is helpful? especially things like this
because it looks to me that you could be misinterpreting the issue and possibly causing more harm than good
No, because asking black people for every specific situation is putting more labour on them and probably would cause them more harm.
Those of us who were raised in white ‘culture’ need to listen to black people (as we have) and call this stuff out or in. It shouldn’t be black people’s job all the time to either or both call it out/in or answer our inane questions.
We are also trans and would not want to explain every specific situation either, it would get overwheling, and we wouldn’t feel very good having to see every transphobic etc instance either. It should be on cis people who understand to stand up for us. Sadly they likely would get pushback from other cis people also, but that shouldn’t stop them.
so you just assumed black people want you to do something, without ever asking or confirming if that’s what they want because you don’t want them to experience more “labour” and “harm”.
That’s the definition of white knighting, and is incredibly patronising. Do better
Also, you as a white american might not think that you have any meaningful culture, idc about that. But do not make blanket statments implying the entire race of white people have no culture because what?
What black person has requested this? Who is we?
I believe they are using we to refer to themselves, theypossibly a system, though I’m not super versed in that.