i believe, only reason to live is to contribute to society, because pain and pleasures are temporary, but society more is permanent. So life is over when person lost ability to contribute, Then at this stage, person may choose to take Sannyasa or take prayopavesha(fast until death) or burn oneself with fire in protest.

you are asking people to fuck merits!

funny part is, OP is saying that it is unethical for them to not compensate to these poor souls 😰

Hey, it’s fair right?, if young hot lady maintains romantic or sexual relations with higher ranking military using her seduction skills to get promotion. Others soldiers are using also using their skills. so IG all animals have their weapons. Instead of spending years in battles, why don’t someone should take the shortcut. who cares about defending/extending our culture? What really matter is our own self-interest.

You got opportunity here to tame him, ask him what makes one alpha?, then convince him that you are one or at least superior than him. Then, you will unlock ability to demand more share in things like food and money. But he looks like person who just argues.

It’s only one part. Other part is to test them yourself, don’t just take their word as fact, which is most important part. Examples, industries like tobacco funding in order to promote consumption of their product & downplaying harmful role of their product, countries releasing ranking of other countries who lacks “media freedom”. Most of this can be solved by peer review. and experts can be wrong sometimes, reminds me of episode of its always sunny in Philadelphia. And I think this paragraph is just common sense & whole post is was about soft sciences.

There is story about common sense in Panchatantra

• (33) Better common sense than erudition;
• good sense is superior to book-learning;
• absence of sense invites destruction;
• as with the scholars who made a dead lion living.’

'And how was that?’ asked Wheelbearer. And Goldfinder then began the tale of The Scholars who brought a dead lion to life.   In a certain settlement lived four Brāhmanas in close friendship. Three of them had mastered all the branches of knowledge but they lacked one thing—common sense. One, however, the fourth among them, who had decisively set his face against scholarship possessed just this—plain and simple good sense.   Once, the four of them sat discussing among themselves; and one observed, ‘What use is scholarship to a man who does not travel to other lands to earn wealth by gratifying kings? So whatever we do, it is imperative that we travel abroad.’ And they set out.   When they had gone some distance, the eldest said, ‘Look, the fourth among us is an unlettered fellow. What does he have but just common sense. Without scholarship, depending on mere good sense, how can anyone gain the favour of princes. So, we shall not share the wealth we earn, with him. Let him therefore part company with us and go home.’   The second Brāhmana chimed in with, ‘All right, friend Commonsense you have no scholarship; so you had better go home.’   But the third Brāhmana courteously interprosed, ‘No, no, this is no way to talk; we have played together since we were small children.’ Turning to the fourth Brāhmana, he said, ‘Come along, my good friend; you shall share equally with us.’   With this understanding, the four of them continued their journey. In a forest they chanced upon the bones of a dead lion. And one of them remarked, ‘Look, here is an opportunity for us to demonstrate the value of our learning and put it to practical use. Here lies a creature dead. Let us bring it back to life using the knowledge we have gained by diligent study.’   Immediately one of them rose to the occasion. ‘Oh, I know how to assemble the bones and make the skeleton.’   A second added, ‘And I can provide it with skin and flesh and blood as well.’   The third capped this with, ‘But I can give it the breath of life.   So, when one had assembled the bones properly, another furnished flesh and blood and covered it with skin. Just as the third Brāhmana scholar was going to infuse life into the form, the fourth stopped him, saying, ‘Look; this is a lion; if you give it life, it is going to kill us all.’   But the third scholar retorted bristling, ‘Shame upon you! You wretched fool! What! You think I am the one to make my learning useless and unfruitful, do you?’   The fourth man’s reply came pat, ‘Well, all right then; go ahead; but just wait one moment while I climb this tree nearby.’   As Commonsense climbed up the tree, the third scholar breathed life into the form which straight away rose up as a lion and killed all the three scholars. When the lion went elsewhere the fourth Brāhmana, the man of sense, climbed down and went home.   ‘Therefore I told you, “Better common sense than erudition…” and the rest of it,’ concluded Goldfinder

In Mahabharata, When Grandfather Bhisma was instructing Yudhishthira about Dandaniti.

‘Yudhishthira said, “You have instructed me about a terrible thing that is false and lacks devotion. This is the kind of restraint followed by bandits and I avoid it. I am confused and distressed. My bonds of dharma have become weak. I do not have any initiative in following this. How can I even think about it?”

‘Bhishma replied, “In instructing you about dharma, I have not depended on the sacred texts alone. This is wisdom and experience and it is the honey that wise people have collected. A wise king will have many means of prevention, from here and there. Progress on the journey does not take place along a single branch of dharma. O Kouravya! When kings ignite their intelligence to follow dharma, they are always victorious. Therefore, understand my words. Kings who desire victory and regard intelligence as the best, are always triumphant. Here and there, using his intelligence, a king thinks of means that are in conformity with dharma. The dharma for kings was not determined as a dharma that only has a single branch. Why has the dharma for weak ones not been described earlier?98 If an ignorant person sees a fork in the road, he will be confused. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! You should have already realized that intelligence can also offer a dilemma.99 The wisdom is by one’s side, but it flows everywhere, like a river. One must know that the dharma followed by people can have a course and also the opposite course. Some know this properly. There are others who possess an understanding that is false. Understanding the truth of all this, one acquires knowledge from the virtuous. Those who steal100 from the sacred texts are against dharma. They understand their purport unevenly and vainly seek to explain them. They desire fame in every way and wish to earn a living off this learning. All of them are the worst among men and are against dharma. They are stupid and their views are not ripe. They do not know the true purport. In every way, their final objective is never to be accomplished in the sacred texts. They steal from the sacred texts and point to what is wrong in the sacred texts. They do not act well when they proclaim their own knowledge. In an attempt to establish their own learning, they criticize the knowledge of others. They use words as their weapons and words as their knives. Their milking of knowledge is fruitless. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! Know them to be the traders of knowledge, like rakshasas. They laugh at dharma and believe that all of it is deceitful. ‘We have not heard of any words of dharma in their words, or any intelligence.’ When speaking of Brihaspati’s knowledge, Maghavan himself said this.101 There are no words that are spoken in this world without a reason and some are versed in the sacred texts. But others do not act in accordance with them. There are learned ones who have said that dharma is only what people follow in this world. Even if a person is learned, virtuous and instructed about dharma, he cannot understand it on his own. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! He can be intolerant about the sacred texts, or confused in his learning. Even when wise men speak about the sacred texts collectively, insight may be missing. What is praised is intelligent words that are derived from the sacred texts. Even if an ignorant person speaks words that are full of knowledge and reason, that is thought of as virtuous. In ancient times, to dispel the doubts of daityas, Ushanas said, ‘Know that if the sacred texts do not possess meaning, they are abhorrent. Knowledge that cannot be defined is non-existent.’ Why do you wish to be satisfied with something that has a severed root? Do not resort to words that are false and injurious. You have been created for fierce deeds, but you are paying no attention to what you should do. O king! Look towards my own limbs, decorated with the effects of good policy.(Bhisma was wounded by arrows) Others escaped and are delighted because of this. Brahma created the goat, the horse and the kshatriya for similar reasons.104 Therefore, some105 are successful in their journey by glancing towards other beings. The sacred texts say that the sin from killing someone who should not be killed is the same as the sin from not killing someone who should be killed. This is certainly a rule which they106 shun. If the king does not establish them in their own dharma, the subjects face extreme decay. They roam around and devour each other, like wolves. If there is a kingdom where bandits roam around and steal the possessions of others, like egrets snatching fish from the water, that person is the worst among kshatriyas. Choose noble advisers who possess the learning of the Vedas. O king! Rule the earth. Follow dharma and protect the subjects. If a lord of the earth appoints inferior people to tasks and seizes, without knowing the difference between the two,107 he is a eunuch among kshatriyas. According to dharma, fierceness is not praised. But nor is lack of fierceness. One should not transgress either. Having been fierce, become mild. The dharma of kshatriyas is difficult to follow and there is plenty of affection in you. But you were created for fierce deeds. Rule the kingdom accordingly. Always chastise the wicked and protect the virtuous. O bull among the Bharata lineage! The intelligent Shakra said that this was what should be done in a time of distress.”

It’s old problem, Schopenhauer described it

When we come to look into the matter, so-called universal opinion is the opinion of two or three persons; and we should be persuaded of this if we could see the way in which it really arises.

We should find that it is two or three persons who, in the first instance, accepted it, or advanced and maintained it; and of whom people were so good as to believe that they had thoroughly tested it. Then a few other persons, persuaded beforehand that the first were men of the requisite capacity, also accepted the opinion. These, again, were trusted by many others, whose laziness suggested to them that it was better to believe at once, than to go through the troublesome task of testing the matter for themselves. Thus the number of these lazy and credulous adherents grew from day to day; for the opinion had no sooner obtained a fair measure of support than its further supporters attributed this to the fact that the opinion could only have obtained it by the cogency of its arguments. The remainder were then compelled to grant what was universally granted, so as not to pass for unruly persons who resisted opinions which every one accepted, or pert fellows who thought themselves cleverer than any one else. When opinion reaches this stage, adhesion becomes a duty; and henceforward the few who are capable of forming a judgment hold their peace. Those who venture to speak are such as are entirely incapable of forming any opinions or any judgment of their own, being merely the echo of others’ opinions; and, nevertheless, they defend them with all the greater zeal and intolerance. For what they hate in people who think differently is not so much the different opinions which they profess, as the presumption of wanting to form their own judgment; a presumption of which they themselves are never guilty, as they are very well aware. In short, there are very few who can think, but every man wants to have an opinion; and what remains but to take it ready-made from others, instead of forming opinions for himself?

Since this is what happens, where is the value of the opinion even of a hundred millions? It is no more established than an historical fact reported by a hundred chroniclers who can be proved to have plagiarised it from one another; the opinion in the end being traceable to a single individual. It is all what I say, what you say, and, finally, what he says; and the whole of it is nothing but a series of assertions

… ordinary folk have a deep respect for professional men of every kind. They are unaware that a man who makes a profession of a thing loves it not for the thing itself, but for the money he makes by it; or that it is rare for a man who teaches to know his subject thoroughly; for if he studies it as he ought, he has in most cases no time left in which to teach it

Its not about listening to themselves, they just don’t think deeply. is it not that they don’t trust their product, they don’t have their own product, their reasoning skills are garbage

And it is probably related to our habit of web browsing things first. We should reflect on question first. and nothing should go unanswered like if someone believes “everyone have same value” then they should have reason why?

And I suggest people to read Schopenhauer essays on thinking & related topics in order to understand why people are not so smart. This is good start

I see, over policing. Here police try to solve domestic(family) disputes without registering complains & overlook trivial offenses. And in local area, people usual approach respected locals & panchayat first. because it is common sense that justice system is unnecessarily expensive & takes a lot time to deliver justice.

Omg that explains alot

Yeah, these people are nuts, its good to see crazies from opposite groups. I will check how good Lemmy will becomes after year or two. IG at least it will not be a echo chamber. Maybe then they will notice opposition have same pattern as them. Then hopefully they will become more open minded

Yeah, people here assumes everyone knows about their political problems. I am not from west. Have a open mind

Who are “vulnerable” people here? Criminals?

Meh, you are overreacting

Here is copied pasted version

Calling the police often escalates situations, puts people at risk, and leads to violence. Anytime you seek help from the police, you’re inviting them into your community and putting people who may already be vulnerable into dangerous situations. Sometimes people feel that calling the police is the only way to deal with problems. But we can build trusted networks of mutual aid that allow us to better handle conflicts ourselves and move toward forms of transformative justice, while keeping police away from our neighborhoods.

Don’t feel obligated to defend property—especially corporate “private” property. Before confronting someone or contacting the police, ask yourself if anyone is being hurt or endangered by property “theft” or damage. If the answer is “no,” then let it be.

If something of yours is stolen and you need to file a report for insurance or other purposes, consider going to the police station instead of bringing cops into your community. You may inadvertently be putting someone in your neighborhood at risk.

If you observe someone exhibiting behavior that seems “odd” to you, don’t assume that they are publicly intoxicated. A traumatic brain injury or a similar medical episode may be occurring. Ask if they are OK, if they have a medical condition, and if they need assistance.

If you see someone pulled over with car trouble, stop and ask if they need help or if you can call a tow truck for them. If the police are introduced to such a situation, they may give punitive and unnecessary tickets to people with car issues, target those without papers, or worse.

Keep a contact list of community resources like suicide hotlines. When police are contacted to “manage” such situations, people with mental illness are sixteen times more likely to be killed by cops than those without mental health challenges.

Check your impulse to call the police on someone you believe looks or is acting “suspicious.” Is their race, gender, ethnicity, class, or housing situation influencing your choice? Such calls can be death sentences for many people.

Encourage teachers, coworkers, and organizers to avoid inviting police into classrooms, workplaces, and public spaces. Instead, create for a culture of taking care of each other and not unwittingly putting people in harm’s way. If you’re part of a group that’s holding a rally or demonstration, don’t get a permit or otherwise cooperate with the police.

If your neighbor is having a party and the noise is bothering you, go over and talk to them. Getting to know your neighbors with community events like monthly block parties is a good way to make asking them to quiet down a little less uncomfortable, or to find another neighbor who is willing to do so.

If you see someone peeing in public, just look away! Remember, for example, that many houseless people do not have reliable access to bathrooms.

Hold and attend deescalation, conflict resolution, first-aid, volunteer medic, and self-defense workshops in your neighborhood, school, workplace, or community organization.

Street art is beautiful! Don’t report graffiti and other street artists. If you see work that includes fascistic or hate speech, paint over it yourself or with friends.

Remember that police can escalate domestic violence situations. You can support friends and neighbors who are being victimized by abusers by offering them a place to stay, a ride to a safe location, or to watch their children. Utilize community resources like safe houses and hotlines.

I am familiar with this issue, they are are marking questions as duplicate when actually they are just related questions. And users intentionally not up voting. but at least in SE users are in good faith, encourage good quality answers & avoid duplicates.

I was talking about, this post being duplicated 4 times

Funny rule

I am sorry, my server(https://thelemmy.club/) got downtime, so clicked create post button multiple times to retry. I deleted them.

I used to disagree with you, but i was new to Lemmy. Thanks for sharing

Haha, you’re soft and weak like a girl

So you are saying girls are and tend to be strong as men? Therefore it makes pussy bad word? Get hold of yourself delusional. you are swimming in bullshit & polluting others. There is reason word pussy got same meaning as “you’re soft and weak like a girl”, cause girls are weak. How can woman retaliate abuse of husband? So she endures. Have you ever saw men enduring same kind of abuse by other men?

Your comparison is flawed. N word was never used to mean qualities like coward.

Yeah, those who use them can’t be decent people. Its only one criteria in our cult

Religion is not under attack at all. Quite the opposite.

you are just spreading your propaganda, I am talking about language. I hope these religious extremist people ban these words so you can experience unfairness of censor of language. They are not only fascist, look at mirror

By you.

Your famous & beloved person said it multiple times

Calling them womanlike for supposedly being timid is insulting to women and therefore misogynist.

But this p word is always used like this.

Why holy shit is not insult to religion? You are calling shit holy?

Because its association with vagina

Then solution to piss off misogynist is simple, call brave women dick. Bravo greeta thumber, you are real dick!

Calling them womanlike for supposedly being timid is insulting to women and therefore misogynist.

Hmm that as motive makes sense, but it is still unjust IMHO, which word you would have used instead? Coward? Gutless? P word is always used, never saw any other word used for this.

these attempts at defending bigoted insults

That looked insult to you, not me. I had no idea, tbh.