The why doesn’t someone at scale make sustainable phones?
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A 3.5 mm jack is just more stuff that needs to go into the limited thickness of a smartphone. They also need to be made water-resistant, and it’s just another potential point of failure. And for those who don’t use them, they’re a useless lint trap. Overall, they just cost more to produce which puts more cost onto the consumer.
Thus is straight up a lie. They cost less than a dollar to buy and put in a phone. Even the thinnest iPhone could have one without it impacting space and finally they are just as easy to waterproof as usb c port.
But yeah keep regurgitating the same facts big companies want you to use cause a extremely backwards compatible analog audio standard is less “convenient”
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
11·1 year agoPixels have 7 years of updates. Lol.
Do they have the same level of sustainability or ethical sourcing? No. But they still do uses plenty of recycled materials for its production.
But its a way better phone hardware wise for a price that is very similar. With enough “eco washing” for most people to not give a shit.
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
2·1 year agoWhich is a damn shame.
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
11·1 year agoI don’t prefer wireless headphones, as can probably be told by my impassioned argument. But I also recognize the convenience of them, even if I think it’s not that much of a convenience over a pair of wired earbuds. I just see no reason other than their bottom line why they couldn’t have given us both options.
You already have to make a compromise in your hardware choices when choosing a Fairphone, because their hardware is simply put nowhere nearly as competitive to the other phones out there that compete in their price category, with the longevity of their updates as well. That singular choice demonstrated to me that the compromise you have to make for a more sustainable phone is ultimately not worth it, because they’re willing to sacrifice their sustainability in order to push sales of another one of their own products.
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
5·1 year agoNo because wireless headphones are not sustainable.
Also and this is my opinion they don’t compete at a disadvantage because of their sustainability. They compete at a disadvantage because they have yet to make a phone with hardware that actually makes them worth buying. They’re whole selling point is sustainability but nothing else makes their phones worth while when there are other players in the industry with better hardware at the same price and with software updates for close to the same length as fairphone.
So to me when their whole brand is focused on sustainability and you have to give up better hardware for that yet they make a whole unsustainable decision and remove the one feature that most phones has dropped for “industry standards” why would i ever consider the company?
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
610·1 year agoNever called them evil. Id probably put it closer to misguided.
They are battling for industry standards? Yet they just follow the industry trend?? Which is it? imo you can’t have both.
It just informed me of the fact they if they were tasked with doing something for their consumers and longevity or doing something for their bottom line they are gonna pick their bottom line. Right now most their bottom line benefits from being “eco aware” telling you they will be in it for the long haul. But I don’t really trust that will always be the case cause they already showed what corner they thought they could cut and still keep users “happy”. Influence And Money destroys most.
Wireless headphones are destined to be landfill waste practically from the day they are made. Just because they made theirs a little user serviceable doesn’t negate the fact that when the Bluetooth codec on em gets too old or incompatible they will be trash. Unlike wired headphones which don’t need to rely on any of that and can last basically as long as you take care of them or the physical materials degrade.
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
62·1 year agoIt’s just bullshit to me. There was no reason to do it other than industry trends and their want to sell their own wireless headphones (another industry trend).
There was no reason they couldn’t do both keep a headphone jack and sell wireless headphones. But they looked at the bottom line and went with the option that was good for their pockets, not their consumers.
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
1348·1 year agoI don’t give a shit about what fairphone does anymore. They removed the headphone jack to follow trends and sell their own pos wireless earbuds.
Just another company attempting to leverage its green messages to get more sales.
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Buy European@feddit.uk•Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.English
216·1 year agoRemoved by mod
I like us mobile alot. Well priced too
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1·1 year agoMaybe if you read what i said you’ll figure it out.
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Technology@lemmy.world•Google Gemini struggles to write code, calls itself “a disgrace to my species”English
1·1 year agoJust really don’t see the worth in trying it period. There are enough privacy focused free search engines that get me all the answers i need from a search already. I have no reason to want to invest more into it. And i think general public would see it the same way.
Kagi based on its features doesn’t have a good enough value proposition for me to even want to try it out cause really what more are they offering?
it may be a good value proposition for people who lives revolve around searches and research but it ain’t a need I have and unless ypur part of that group idk why youd want to pay for it.
And don’t said ads. They are honestly laughable easy to get around still or even ignore.
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1·1 year agoLmao i get ur point bud. But it seems you don’t get mine? Plus really are ads the issue for you? Plenty of easy ways to never see them. Also their ad tradeoff for it being free is a better compromise to me than paying for a search engine.
I just think the idea of kagi is niche proposal considering the needs of most ppl from a search engine. I just don’t think its the value proposition you are spouting but go off lol.
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1·1 year agoFree considering duckduckgo covers almost all the same bases. I just don’t think kagi has a compelling argument especially for the type of searching the average person does. Maybe if you have a career that revovles more around research.
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Technology@lemmy.world•Google Gemini struggles to write code, calls itself “a disgrace to my species”English
1·1 year agoAnd duckduckgo is free. Its interesting that they don’t make any comparisons to free privacy focused search engines. Cause they still don’t have a compelling argument for me to use and pay for their search. But i aint no researcher so maybe it worth it then 🤷♂️
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34·1 year ago5 bucks a month for a search engine is ridiculous. 25 bucks a month for a search engine is mental institution worthy.
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71·1 year agoJust insane cope. Reddit was a stable ecosystem where breaks like this for a big update were acceptable. But lemmy its not the developer cashed in on the bag when everyone first tried to move over from reddit and then abandoned the project less than a year later. Fuck him.
More accurately it is a Melamine platter. We use this exact type and design in our catering op.



Whatever reason q company give for now headphone jack is always bs. Its plain and simple they wanna sell you their wireless earbuds.