No days ruined, mate, Romanians are pretty chill. When I espouse my communist views to Poles, for example, I get violent threats, so you’re golden.

Those left-wing parties you said were sabotaged… did you actually vote for them

Yup, I’m a Spaniard who did vote for Podemos when they rose, and I’ve seen the capitalist state apparatus + private media demolish the only chance at progressivism this country has had in half a century. Just think about it. How many countries are there in the EU? How many of them have managed to elect a left-than-socdem government since the Euro crisis? The answer is 1: Greece. And if you remember what happened with the Troika and Syriza, you’ll know that the only country which managed to elect a leftist government in Europe was literally threatened to be kicked out of the common currency. When for 2 decades not one single in country in the EU manages to pass progressive economic policy and 100% of them consistently pass neoliberal austerity bullshit, how can you have the slightest bit of trust left in the system? Go ahead and vote for your progressives, I cheer you on that and I’d do the same, but don’t break your heart too much when you see them involved in lawfare/corruption scandals/out of government through a coalition of the rest of parties.

Seeing this is big part of how I went commie, yes. I’m about 30 years old, I just found a decent-paying job in my so far successful STEM-field career.

I only defended Romania cause you attacked it. 99% of these people suck

As much as you feel that way, things aren’t much better right now in most places. People are generally good, it’s capitalism rotting our personalities and distorting our ideas. Things will get better, you’ll see, and you’ll love your country and its people. We’re romance language buddies!

Get off the commie stuff. It’s too dark.

It’s the opposite of dark. Darkness is capitalist realism: the doom of knowing that the system will not steward itself through free market relations into saving us from climate change. Darkness is being incapable of saying anything when our homelands exploit and murder billions in the global south, support genocides in Palestine and wars in Iran, and knowing that things will get worse when the inevitable far-right wave crashes into Europe in the following 5-10 years. Darkness is working for a capitalist firm and seeing your rights and your capabilities constantly eroded, your pensions and your healthcare underfunded, and the education of your children destroyed in favour of the private sector. Communism actually brings an answer to all of these questions, and it’s this answer that makes me so passionate about it. Mate, the world CAN be better than it is, but it won’t become this through elections.

You tell me to volunteer for charity: three days ago I was picking up medical material in my hometown to be sent to our brothers and sisters in Cuba with the flotilla that’s going to be arriving in a few weeks, curtailing the criminal and murderous US blockade on the island and its inhabitants. I raise you one: what if, while you carried out meaningful action such as what I just described, you were receiving and sharing political education, activism, worker organizing, etc? Mutual aid organizations, worker unions, antifascist activity… All of this is not only compatible but actually symbiotic with learning about socialism in theory and in practice.

We cannot have good leftism in the future without honest analysis of the leftism of the past: we need to analyze the mistakes of communism (treatment of people with disabilities in Romania, deportation of ethnic Koreans in WW2 USSR, LGBTQ rights on the eastern block or whatever else you want to bring up) not as blanket condemnation and as rejection of our socialist forebearers, but as honest criticism to improve on where they unfortunately failed due their lacks and the circumstances. Still, the Eastern Block was the most emancipatory, anticolonialist, anti-imperialist, egalitarian and liberating socialist movement in the history of the world, and without seeing through the anticommunist capitalist propaganda, we will never achieve half of what they achieved. That’s why I’m so insistent on this topic

Lmao Romania just accepted to host US aircraft to bomb Iran. Tell me again how moral and good capitalist Romania is

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Uygur genocide denial

Get off the CIA propaganda buddy, not helping your “leftism”. We’ve seen a televised genocide in Gaza and what it looks like, calling the Uyghur situation in China a genocide is insulting to Palestinians suffering actual genocide

Talk to me in 10 years when you experience the EU"s systematic destruction of leftist parties and the rise of the far-right

The wealthy are not taking 90% in Romania

Brother the gini coefficient in Romania is 34 and in Russia it’s 35, you are at Russian levels of kleptocracy…

There’s a new green social-democrat party that’s the real deal. It’s growing. Fingers crossed

Keep them crossed lmao those parties are de facto forbidden in Europe. Mark my words: the party will be disintegrated in 10 years. It happened in Spain with Podemos (type of party you’re supporting), it happened in Greece with Syriza… You’re 10 years late to the party, the EU will literally not allow for anything left of corrupt socdems. Mark my words for when in 5-10 years your party is all but forgotten. Electoralism does not work.

The thing about supermarkets being empty is real. That was literally one of the things that triggered the revolution

Sure, the supermarkets got empty in all of the eastern block at the same time, thats why all countries abandoned socialism. I’m aware of the austerity policy in the 1980s, but that’s not because of oligarchy, it’s because Romania took on debt to further invest on its industrial sector, and had to pay back the debt. It caused inflation, but the real shit happened in the 1990s, because capitalism destroyed the economy. Wealth inequality skyrocketed, you complain about oligarchs but it’s literally an order of magnitude now than before. Please, since you speak Romanian, try and find numerical information of wealth inequality in 1975 vs 2025.

What my grandfather did was he refused to beat up a guy for information. He was just a regular cop in a small city

That’s literally cops everywhere. ACAB exists in the west, too. The good souls are kicked out of the police or corrupted.

Romania’s GDP grew 550% from 1989 to 2026

So half the growth rate lmao. About 4% yearly during the socialist period and 2% during the capitalist period. Not looking great for your argument, especially when you consider that the distribution of wealth is abysmally worse now and the poor people get fucked while the rich take 90% of the wealth.

By 1989 Romanians were starving. Supermarket shelves were empty. Money meant nothing.

You’re confusing the post-communist inflation period with actual socialism. You know, the point when people lost their jobs, when the industry of the country was dismantled, when the rural infrastructure was left to crumble, and when people had to massively start leaving the country!

And, hey, where were all the disabled people?

That’s good and honest criticism, thanks for bringing it up. I wasn’t aware of the treatment of people with disabilities in socialist Romania, and it’s good that you showed me the article about it. You see, that’s how you do criticism, not by making up nonexistent genocides.

Political opposition? Freedom of speech? None of that

Dude, I live in Spain. There has recently been a plot that destroyed the leftist party Podemos in Spain by cops manufacturing false documents of funding by Venezuela and Iran, and leaking those fake documents to all media, which echoed it incessantly for years until it was proven fake. Before that, we had the GAL, a secret paramilitary corps of the ministry of internal affairs that was murdering pro-independence Basque activists and tossing their corpses in lye to melt the evidence.

My uncle can attest to that. Oh wait, he can’t. He spoke ill of the regime while in compulsory military training and they “took care” of him.

Wow, almost as if that’s the history of countries with a fascist past! My great grandfather got murdered by the reds behind the frontlines on the civil war, and I’m not praising Franco for killing the reds. You know what? Because my great grandfather was fascist scum and he likely deserved it! Romania also has a fascist past, and it was necessary to rid the country of fascist elements.

But maybe my grandfather can tell you about his career as a police officer-ohnowait he got canned

Oh, your grandfather got canned for having a dissenting political opinion in the police, something that totally doesnt happen at all with modern police in Europe aye? Ffs my cousin is a cop and he’s constantly harassed for being a leftist, and communists are systematically purged of public life and employments for the sin of being reds. Get off your high horse and look at the current reality.

Healthcare? Let’s ask my aunt. Oh shit, wait, we can’t. She died at 5 of pneumonia cause there were no doctors in her village

Surely she would have survived her pneumonia if the USSR had allowed the fascists to remain in government in s fucking backwards peasant country, huh? Dude, you’re blaming communism for the lack of medicine in a fucking village in 1970, in a country they industrialized themselves. If it weren’t for the communists, your aunt wouldn’t even have been born because the Nazis would have ethnically cleansed your homeland!

Industry? Pollution

Oh you’re right, Romania should have invented solar photovoltaic modules in 1955, totally communism’s fault that they didn’t! You’re ridiculous! You can also thank Chinese communism for Romania’s 47% of renewables, I bet half of that is achieved with solar panels, of which China manufactures 95% of the world’s supply! And likely another significant part of that 47% comes from hydroelectric stations from the communist times of Romania ;)

My parents lived through it themselves and I live in Romania today

So capitalism literally uprooted your family from your homeland for 30 years and you’re still licking the boot? That’s absurd levels of cognitive dissonance! Your family literally had to leave the fucking country because of the horrifying 1990s capitalist crisis, and only now can you move back to a somewhat stable Romania (likely highly educated and in a high paying service sector job of the top 10% of the population, correct me otherwise) being one of the few wealthy people enjoying the fruits of someone else’s labor in capitalism.

I don’t know what part seems cruel to you of explaining that the Nazi project, which the Soviets stopped, included the enslavement of genocide of all non-German peoples between Berlin and the Urals, Romania included (sooner or later). Since you’re Romanian, the Soviets also literally saved you from your own fascist regime. I do not wish harm on you or your family, rather the opposite, I’m thanking the Soviets for saving them.

Go thank Ceausescu for committing genocide in Romania

Literally not a thing, stop manufacturing nonexisting genocides. There was repression under Ceausescu, but there was absolutely no genocide. Can you please link me up to what you’re referring to as “genocide”?

As for what the Ceausescu government did in Romania, per data from the Romanian Statistical Review: Between 1950 and 1989, Romania’s GDP grew by 850%. The country went between 1950 and 1989 from being composed of 86% agricultural workers (essentially a feudalist state), to being an industrialized society with 46% of the population working in the industrial sector. This industrial revolution literally turned a nation of starving peasants into a rather modern and industrialized country with infrastructure, guaranteed housing, free education, universal healthcare and guaranteed jobs with no unemployment.

Look at what happened to the population of Romania after Ceausescu:

4 million in population losses… It’s really no wonder that even after 3+ decades of anticommunist propaganda, the majority of Romanians still view Ceausescu as a good leader and believe that life was better in socialist Romania.

Thanks a lot for the extra info! My point was not particularly the population growth isolated, rather the total destruction of the demographics of most eastern block countries after the point in time in 1990 when the block is dissolved and the countries transition to capitalism. This is not apparent in the western capitalist countries because the dynamic of western Europe is that of imperial core whereas eastern Europe has become imperial periphery, to be exploited and denied equal footing than that of the west!

It’s a useful shorthand, not a slur

I would argue that demeaning shorthand expressions used in a negative connotation against people who have been systematically discriminated, imprisoned or even assassinated, is an appropriate descriptor of a slur. Communism has been seriously repressed, from “milder” forms like McCarthyism in the US purging communists from all public life and condemning them to unemployment, to more direct methods such as literal extermination through forced labor and murder as in my homeland of Spain. All Marxists from Spain were either murdered or had to emigrate to Mexico or the USSR during the 1930s.

Again, you can admire their public transport without supporting the government

Exactly my point, and the reason for my original comment.

According to it, they’ve transitioned from putting uyghur in camps to putting them in prisons

Not really. They’re documenting the existence of prisons in Xinjiang, but there’s absolutely no evidence of mass imprisonment of Uyghurs based on their ethnicity or religion or any other grounds. Prisons exist in all countries, not exclusively in China, and China doesn’t have particularly high rates of imprisonment compared to countries like the US.

You’re just denying the whole principle of Self-Determination

Did you ask Tibetan people what they believe of this? There hasn’t ever been any significant independence movement in Tibet regarding this. I could compare that to my homeland of Spain, which had literal terrorist strikes from ETA because of Basque independence movements, and Catalonia’s extremely tense political situation that led to the imprisonment sentences of high-profile pro-independence politicians such as Charles Puidgemont or Oriol Junqueras. Nothing like this has been seen in Tibet, you’re literally pretending you know better about the self-governance of Tibet than Tibetans themselves. There is not any significant pro-independence political or social movement in Tibet, you’re making up the question of self-determination based on ideas and comparing with the west without analyzing the particular situation of Tibet or the desires of Tibetans.

Yeah, sure, the Hun live great lives in Tibet

You probably mean Han? Are you really trying to argue about ethnic policy in China and you literally cannot spell the name of the majority ethnicity in the country? You’re not arguing from a point of being well informed and well-read on the topic, you’re literally repeating Reddit comment-level propaganda.

what about the ethnic-Tibetans? This is like saying the territory of Palestine is much better as it is now with a big chunk of it occupied by Israel

Honestly, you’re just showing you are literally making up reality with that comparison, proving yet again that you have literally no idea about the topic. Ethnic Tibetans make up 85+% of the population in the region, Han peoples are 12%ish. Open a book for once in your life and stop regurgitating anti-China propaganda which is clearly not coming from a well-intentioned nuanced critique but from literally made up realities. It’s absolutely fucking insulting that you would dare compare the living standards of ethnic Tibetans in Tibet with the literal genocide of Palestinians in occupied Palestine. This conversation is over, I don’t argue with genocide denialists who minimize the genocide of Palestinians by comparing it to the living conditions of Tibet.

That’s the “they were ruled by evil dictators so we freed them” argument so beloved by Americans

The difference are the results. In Tibet now there’s a high development index state with conservation of their culture, traditions and language, a functioning government with autonomy, and high levels of education and welfare. In Iraq, Syria and Libya, you have dismantled failed states, terrorism, religious extremism, disintegration of infrastructure and a total lack of education and welfare state. If you cared a minimum about informing yourself on Tibet and its inhabitants, you’d know this, instead of swallowing the American propaganda whole and using Tibetans as a political weapon instead of considering them as people with an agency and power.

Communist China has invaded and annexed Tibet.

This is over 50 years ago as I said, and you’re mischaracterizing what happened. Tibet was a feudal kingdom where the vast majority of the population were starved serfs legally bound to the land of their god-given lord. China liberated Tibet from feudalism and rose life expectancy and material conditions massively, while preserving their heritage, language and culture, and a degree of autonomy within China higher than most other regions (Tibet is an autonomous region).

The exact same Principle applies to judging the Russian aggression against Ukraine

The Russian republic had armed conflict in the 90s and 2000s with the Chechen wars, it has precedent of militaristic attitudes.

the American and Israeli aggression against Iran

The US had armed conflict in the 90s, 2000s and 2010s, and Israel has been genociding Palestinians since its inception

and the possible Chinese aggression against Taiwan

China doesn’t have a recent history of militarism. It’s pure speculation and kinda senseless looking at China’s attitudes towards Taiwan and their extensive trade agreements.

Gommunist DESTROYED by FACTS and @

Then ignore the etymology and focus on the historical facts, what do you have to say about them?

Would be an interesting thing to sed. My graphs are Wikipedia screenshots from the “Demographics of X” for each country mentioned. Would you post some from, say, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, US…?

Edit: replied to the wrong comment lmao

I’d say that all of these sucked to live in

And you’d be wrong to say so. Polls in most post-communist states (except some exceptionally right wing nationalist regimes such as the Baltics or Poland) clearly tell us that most people preferred living under socialism.

When talking about the effects of socialism, we need to compare with what came before or after. And what came after was horrifying:

Which is why I proceeded to explain you the history of repression and discrimination of communists in western societies.

Oh wow, thank you so much <3