I don’t think they’re going to be pointing to us as an example. They very strongly dislike the idea of local AIs very much because they have no control over them. They can’t charge a subscription fee, they can’t force the use of guardrails. They can’t even force people to upgrade to new models.

I’m not really sure they would be thrilled about people being empowered to run their own models, which if you look at AI in anarchist spaces is what the majority of people promote.

Disengage.

I would call it stealing if copyright didn’t exist

Copying data is not stealing period. Making a copy of 1s and 0s does not deprive people of the work. You cannot steal art online the way someone can steal a painting. This idea of ownership of ideas is insulting to the idea of art. It turns it into a commodity to be sold. Not something to be enjoyed. Real freedom loving anarchist aren’t ya…

Also, you calling me a liberal and a hypocrite while you shill for billionaire-controlled AI is rich.

Explain to me how I “shill for billionare AI controlled by the rich”? The only thing you’ve shown me so far is that, you apologize for capitalism because of the way things are, which is liberal apologia by definition. And that you dislike AI so you claim that I’m supporting AI companies without actually describing how I’m doing that by use of local stable diffusion models with no subscriptions or ties back to big tech companies.

Would love to hear a real explanation but I doubt I’ll get one, this reeks of the same anti-AI brain rot people from Fuck_AI vomit at me and db0 users constantly. AKA people saying I suck Sam Altman’s dick. Which is funny because I can’t stand Sam Altman or OpenAI.

Also, you calling me a liberal and a hypocrite…

Is fitting because that is 100% how you are acting. Anarchism isn’t like Gender, you don’t get to just identify as an anarchist and belay the meaning of what it stands for without people calling you out. Anarchists do not apologize for copyright and ownership of ideas. Ancaps do, but most of us don’t consider them anarchists because they’re just capitalist libertarians masquerading as anarchists.

at the very least

Emphasis on that part since he’s the kind of dipshit who would accuse people of being terrorists for throwing eggs or paint at his house.

You claim you don’t believe in copyright and that you aren’t in favor or it yet you keep calling copyright violations stealing. I find this really funny and hypocritical. Apologizing for the status quo certainly isn’t saving anyone. It’s called being a liberal. You aren’t special in that regard. There’s thousands of other liberals just like you apologizing for things as they are.

but we do not have socialism or better.

Apologizing for the status quo is the same as defending it. You are utterly pathetic. You can’t claim to be against copyright then turn around and apologize for it because it’s the status quo. That’s called double-think.

Lmao stop acting like you care about the big bad capitalists. You’re just as bad as they are by doing the exact same things they do. Enjoy your privilege.

Funny I’m not the one who expects people to bend and obey to liberal ideology because capitalism “exists”.

Yes, because unless the model was trained with properly licensed artwork (and virtually none of them are), it was built upon stolen art. Doesn’t matter if it’s somehow used ethically after that, the core algorithms were created unethically.

You realize the copyright system you’re defending was created for the purpose of benefiting those billionaires right? Do you think artists want copyright to last longer than they are alive and then some? Also do you think all the so-called “mom and pop artists” can afford to fight for their copyright in court if some chud decides to scoff at the law?

Stop parroting liberal garbage. We’re not buying it. The only thing you’ve succeeded at here is making an idiot of yourself.

This applies to all art equally. Human made as well. If you aren’t depriving them of the original you aren’t stealing.

You can steal a painting, you can’t steal a picture posted online.

No such thing as ‘stealing’ when it comes to generative AI output Copying digital assets.

Fixed it for you. Copyright violations are not stealing. That includes creating unauthorized derivative works.

For generative AI it’s even more meaningless because it can’t be copyrighted.

It was before the change in Tesseract that allowed banning people from a selection of communities, back then it was all or one at a time.

Anti-AI people have accused me of this for as long as they’ve been harassing me but they’re never able to cite any examples. Just claim I do things I never do. It’s fucking pathetic.

That’s the Fuck_AI community for ya. They’ve been harassing me for years over these communities, simply because they exist and I don’t let them bombard them with downvotes as they please.

Here are two lovely comment replies they sent my way.

Yeah this person is a piece of shit.

He got me as well.

Claims I’m a pedophile and “pretending to be trans” whatever the fuck that means…

The safeword is “disengage” and you’re only supposed to use it after starting a discussion or when someone else starts an argument with you. It makes no sense to comment it on a post when you’ve put nothing forward here.

I take it you’re the one behind these defamatory bans?

You know you can just ignore stuff you don’t like, you don’t need to announce it to everyone else.

They’re more than that, they’re also a harassment community. Their members have been harassing me for years and I don’t even post there. It’s not like linuxsucks at all, that community doesn’t harass people who use Linux.

Corporate “AI” is awful. Its a huge issue, its reasonable to be upset about it, and its not reasonable to expect people to understand technical nuance amongst models they never use.

Agreed, it’s never not okay to hate corporate AI and the companies who lease it to us over the air.

Shameless plug for !fuck_corporate_ai@lemmy.dbzer0.com for people who actually want to post about these issues and not just blindly circlejerk against AI in general.

Kind of surprised they didn’t ban me from that community as retaliation since I banned all their mods for coming to my comms to downvote every new post as they came out. Maybe if they figured out how to do it with Tesseract or Photon they would. I have no intention of ever posting there since their members have harassed me aggressively and even impersonated me.