Joking about jews or saying the n word never made anyone a fascist. Fascism didn’t even include antisemitism, it was just added later on because of Germany’s policies. Calling pewdiepie a fascist is wrong intellectually, historically, politically and ideologically.

The only people normalizing fascism are the ones calling everything fascist and making the word lose power and giving new blood to the idea of fascism.

Fascism is a very specific thing, born in a very specific country and with a very specific ideology. Not every authoritarian country is fascist. Not every racist idea is fascist.

People were idiots before fascism. And they can be idiots without being fascists now too.

It’s the same as calling communist everyone that ask for minimum wage or free/cheap healthcare. It’s dumb.

It’s about literally nothing. People just (rightfully) hate Meta so they cry wolf for no reason. Try looking for Meta users on Mastodon, you won’t find almost any. Most thread users don’t know what the fediverse is, don’t care about it and don’t want to know. Threads has likely already more users than the whole fediverse. Their base is already bigger of what they should theoretically “expand and extinguish”. There is absolutely no reason for them to care about the fediverse more other than some niche PR.

The EEE case never made sense from the beginning in this context, but people are still repeating it like a mantra. They are taking an emotional approach to a rational issue. Funnily enough, many of them are probably unable to understand how people could vote for Trump…

Also I don’t understand the problem at all. It’s not like instances can’t defererate later if an issue arise. We were the niche from the start, and they already had all the users they could ever need. And ongoing project was just easier to implement compared to developing a platform from scratch, that’s all.

Well, context definitely matters. We don’t know what you did, how you did it, if she was with her bf, how sane was her bf etc etc. I don’t want to negate your personal experience but I doubt it was just normally casually “talking to a girl” that got you in trouble in a normal situation.

Also 2015 is almost 10 years ago, it’s not really accurate to define it as the current situation.

As for my source, I’m white, my wife is Korean, my ex was Korean, and I hang out alone with female Korean friends a lot. Some very old grandpa may be not very happy about skinship in public, but that’s all. Never to the extent of being attacked or harassed, it’s usually just looking at us a bit with a grumpy face.

This being said, it’s not all perfect. Some families may be less open than others in accepting a marriage with a foreigner (old generations, young people just think it’s cool usually). And not only about white people. The mom of a friend was grumpy about her son marrying a Japanese girl, for example (even if he lives in Japan) But even so, nowdays is rarely open hostility.

Of course idiots are everywhere. So I’m pretty sure there are young guys saying “white guys steal our women!1!!” and getting angry.

Also, an important note is that these days the fight between “feminist” Korean women and men against them is getting bigger. This can influence especially the mind of young men. I was approached by a Korean boy asking me about how women are in my country because all Korean women sucks and are terrible. In that context, I’m sure some guy will use dating a foreigner as an excuse to say how shit and easy Korean girls are.

Anyway, exceptions aside the average population is pretty much fine with it, especially in big cities. It’s not like Korean men don’t like white women too, after all.

Sorry if this is too long, but we’re all here to share knowledge about those countries anyway

Don’t know about the rest, but the South Korea part is simply complete bs

The guy still think that logic didn’t evolve past Aristotle and basic syllogisms, even after a couple of millenia, and argues about a supposed Socrates logic (?) that involves them (???)

They have no idea what they’re talking about other than some random information that they found online, probably. I wouldn’t expect any kind of real logical argument from there.

The funniest thing is that you showed them a perfect example of socratic reductio ad absurdum, but it completely flew over their head because they are too busy trying to argue about syllogisms…

I don’t know where those numbers where pulled from, but that is for sure not the maximum temperature reached. Where you see that wonderful 27 in Italy the daily maximum temperature is already around 40 right now.

Castrato is just Italian for castrated or neutered, even used with animals albeit mostly used referring to males. Sometimes it’s even used figuratively. It would still work perfectly with your example, I think

Not really surprising. That last part “tard” comes from the Latin tardus which basically means slow or late. The “re” particle originally just had a meaning of repetition, in this case. So being late (not for the first time? ) So changing the first part of the word wouldn’t change the meaning of it so easily. Maybe technically something like “intard” could make sense in that way (similarly as what you find in words like indomitable, impossible, ineffective etc), but it doesn’t really exist. Or if we want to make it more meme-like, tarden’t?

Protarded actually exists as a slang with completely different meaning, but that’s out of scope

Overall useless information for most, but anyway

You’re totally right, the content of your posts is not considered personal data (because it isn’t) It’s more about profiling data that can be connected back to your actual person

Stated as a fact with no emotion or judgment related to it. So that excludes mourning for it, which was the point I was making in my reply which was more than clear enough.

And I’m sorry, but I find it incredibly ironic how you’re the one saying reading comprehension isn’t that hard after failing to understand both Nietzsche and my comment.

You suggested them to read Nietzsche and from it you got he mourns the decline of religion through all of his works? Maybe you should also get a re-read.

The decline of religion is stated as a fact, killed by men’s rationality and evolution. As any evolution it has opportunities and risks, in this case the bigger risk is the loss of morality.

But the only thing he clearly advocates for is overcoming religion and God because they are not needed anymore. The new Man should make its own meaning and rules.

It’s the whole concept of the übermensch which is the single central point of his all system.

The quote is not supposed to be his opinion (not directly at least), it’s a character in a story.

It’s like taking the stance of Cephalus in the Plato’s Republic and say it’s Plato’s opinion, while it’s clearly just a tool to let Socrates speak.

That’s not really how it works. If someone can evolve the standard he’s totally free to do it and nobody would object. Standards are by definition collaborative, they can be evolved.

I think the matter was around forcing a proprietary cable, which was also worse and expensive

Mostly because it’s very easy to make calculation on base 10. If i ask you to tell me how many millimeters are in 5.7 meters you could probably reply easily without a calculator. You probably wouldn’t do it as easily if it wasn’t base 10

No, it’s not.

But as far as I know is an industry with a very strong make majority, isn’t it?

And they would probably have said the same about a man

I’m not saying they are or aren’t sexists, I’m just saying that that post doesn’t prove anything other than they were idiots.

They are giving us enough reasons to hate on them without guessing reasons that could or could not be true

Where exactly did I say sexism doesn’t exist?

I’m just saying that crying wolf doesn’t help neither the cause nor a healthy discussion

I don’t understand why people absolutely need to make everything about man vs woman.

If it was a male model those people would have written exactly the same. If tomorrow comes out an article saying the same thing about bred pitt everyone would be suspicious about that being fake too

Since the two jobs are so disconnected from each other it sounds unlikely and they assumed it was some clickbait fake post, that’s all.

I’m absolutely for equality and against any discrimination against women or any other category, but making this into a gender battle is ridiculous

They became gay, of course

There are a few technical problems with that. First of all, the cost of each instance would become quickly unbearable since everyone has all the duplicated data.

Second problem, a malign entity could just come, create its own instance, spam everything and everyone with ads or whatever and suddenly every instance is full of that stuff. Also, how do you handle defederating in that case?

What has been proposed before instead was to make some kind of mega communities that gather all posts from communities with the same name across instances

As I said, the article itself contains no proof that results would have been any different in the long term for XMPP. It’s just a baseless theory. We can read it again and again but the results will always be the same, I’m not sure why you’re pointing back to it when I analyzed every point it tries to make already.

I am not saying EEE doesn’t exist, I’m just saying that nothing in that article contributes to our discussion, and that the EEE scenario doesn’t really even fit our situation.

WhatsApp and Instagram were direct competitors to Facebook and Facebook messenger respectively. While not as big as Facebook, Instagram was pretty popular and WhatsApp was already a standard of communication in multiple countries (they payed 19 billions for it) So yeah, definitely they thought it was better to buy than compete. But are we really thinking the fediverse is even comparable to Instagram or WhatsApp? They wouldn’t buy it even if they could, it’s literally less than crumbles to them, both in value and user base.

I love the fediverse and I’m excited about it but let’s be serious, it’s crazy to even think meta would see it as a competitor. Remember, 19 billions dollars. That’s what meta thought it was better to pay to remove a competitor almost 10 years ago. Can you value the current fediverse even a 1% of that? Let’s not kid ourselves, we’re in no shape or form any kind of threat or competition to Meta.

And, also, we’re a different kind of service altogether. They would do something about reddit first if they were interested in this kind of service.

What they care about is filling the Twitter void, and this was the quickest/cheapest/most convenient way to do it. It can cause problems for mastodon, probably for kbin, but lemmy’s situation is different.

As I said before, there are legitimate causes of worry (moderations, ads, sheer size of their user base, pushing agendas etc) Let’s talk about those, which are important and can lead us to develop new ideas and ways to keep the fediverse healthy.

This EEE scarecrow makes no sense in our situation. We’re different services even if we can coincidentally communicate with to each other.

Also people keep saying to defederate when there is nothing to deferate from at the moment, threads is not federating anything. We don’t even know which domain we are supposed to defederate. Whats the point of talking technicalities without understanding them?

The conversation about what to do in case that happens is useful and healthy, but the sheer amount of disinformation and misunderstanding about the concepts is frankly crazy.

We don’t want to become like meta platforms that are full of disinformation, but most people keep spreading disinformation and mindless slogans here too instead of talking about the real issues.

That Zuck quote is the literal example of that. I have yet to see even one single person here saying that they trust Zuck. But people keep quoting it ad nauseam as if it has any meaning in our context. We are discussing about what are the risks and if they outweght the eventual benefits, nobody is saying that they trust the lizard.

I prefer someone saying “fuck meta, i don’t want any connection to them out of ethics” compared to the 200000th person posting the XMPP article as an out of context Bible.

If you read all of my previous post, you know I’m pro defederation, there is no point in trying to convince me since we already agree.

I’m just strongly against disinformation, fake issues and red herrings

I see this article posted over and over again, but it doesn’t help when many of the posters themselves don’t understand it (I don’t mean it’s your case specifically, of course, just generalizing)

The article starts saying that Google won by EEE with a completely personal hypothesis that has absolutely no factual base (the protocol would be more used today if Google didn’t use it, which is unprovable and overly optimistic)

Then proceeds talking about the office suite describing it as a similar EEE case (which was not since it was MS own thing since the beginning) and by completely ignoring the most glaring and important fact that lead to the current results (which is it being the default suite on any pc)

Then it finishes by saying that the fediverse shouldn’t be popular and have many people, it should instead focus on the freedom of it (which can be agreeable)

The real message of all that article is just that yeah, the average user likes to use whatever they find served to them directly (in Gmail, on their pc, on their phone) and doesn’t care at all where it come from or how it works. Convenience beats privacy for most people, out of ignorance.

There is absolutely no need for any EEE evil plan for someone who already controls the majority of users, that’s just a shortcut to avoid developing something from scratch.

There are real issues with federating threads (moderation, ads, their number controlling the All/Hot pages etc).

It’s not useful, in my opinion, to keep using EEE as a scarecrow without even understand that at the moment Meta has absolutely nothing to take advantage of since the number of people that use mastodon only without any meta product on their phone is so small to be nothing to them.

What meta can gain from mastodon is that they don’t have to start coding from scratch, saving time and money and coming out now at the perfect moment of Twitter collapse. And maybe a bit of a positive image because they “work on open source”.

That’s the whole value they probably see on this atm, not way less than a million people that probably have other meta products on their phones anyway.

I think we should focus on the real problems, this EEE thing is basically becoming propaganda at this point and makes almost no sense in our specific case (lemmy vs threads)

I also agree with a defederating-first cautios approach, btw, for the reasons explained before. But we should talk, inform and discuss about the real problems