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  • Sure, I’d press the “turn him into a good person” button, but that button doesn’t exist, it never has and never will.

    I mean, yeah, imagine if you could just “turn people good” in an instant. That’s the ideal solution. We wouldn’t even be in this mess. Just solve capitalism lmao. “God, what the fuck have I been doing? All this wealth, from other people’s labor?? No, no, hit me. I deserve it.”



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    Yeah I guess the diameter is the key detail. I went on a little rabbit hole with this, feel free to ignore it. TLDR I tried different diameters in the meter-to-cm range mentioned by the article, and the total length varied by a factor of a million.

    First I tried calculating for a fixed diameter throughout.

    If I start with a warehouse volume and a total pipe length, and then work backwards, I get a wide but reasonable pipe diameter. For example, if the warehouse is around 80,000 cubic meters (maybe 100x100x8?), and 40,000 of that is pipe, then the typical pipe diameter is around sqrt(40000 / (π * 190000)) * 2 ≈ 0.52 m wide.

    But the SCP entry says some pipes are as narrow as 2.5 cm. Total length explodes as diameter shrinks. One example is the human body. We have around 100,000 km of blood vessels in our bodies, with a typical diameter of around 0.008 cm and a total volume of around 5 liters (0.005 cubic meters). If we scale 0.005 up to 40,000 cubic meters of pipe in a warehouse, a 1:200 length scaling, the typical diameter would be around 1.6 cm, and the total length would be 200 million km, if SCP 015 is biased toward a lot of little “capillaries.”


    I drank too much caffeine, so next I calculated total length for a distribution of diameters.

    Shit, it wouldn’t be inverse with diameter, it would be inverse with cross-sectional area. I gotta redo this lol


    If the distribution of diameters is inverse, meaning there’s twice as much 10 cm-wide pipe as 20 cm, and twice as much 5 cm as 10 cm, and so on, then we can integrate over diameter, over the stated range of 2.5 cm to 1 m. An inverse curve would have the form y=a/x, where a is a constant, x is diameter, and y is length of pipe at that diameter. If the total length is 190 km, we can set the integral equal to 190 km and then solve for a:

    (hopefully my math isn’t shit)

    Then plug in a to integrate the volume, which is just the product of cross-sectional area π(x/2)^2 and length:

    …So, unless I fucked up my math, which is pretty likely, it actually works out to a somewhat warehouse-sized volume of around 20,000 cubic meters. I don’t know if an inverse distribution is a valid assumption though.






  • Chinese people aren’t some alien Borg Mind race. They want the same things you want. They’re just normal people dude. You want to know why they like their government? It’s because 90% of them own a home and college tuition is like $2000 a year. CPC efforts to raise living standards have been visibly effective. That’s what people care about.

    Also, it’s not accurate to characterize modern Chinese people as “Confucians” to begin with. Certainly not to a “religious” degree, although Confucianism has never been a “religion” in the typical sense anway. Confucius is still discussed in China, sure, but we’re talking about a modern technological state with a modern education system. Chinese people are not awed into servile obedience by religious fervor toward the state. They’re shitposting on social media like you and me.





  • Good thread

    Another rule of thumb: it’s good to give people an out, i.e., be respectful and charitable enough that they can leave the conversation at any time without feeling they need to defeat you to save face. It’s as much for your own sake as theirs. If they feel like they have to defend themself by attacking you, then suddenly you’re in the same position of having to defend yourself and no one has an off ramp.

    Sometimes easier said than done, but it’s never too late to deescalate even if it does start to get heated. It’s just harder.

    It also helps with persuasion. No one wants you to be right if it hurts them. Respect and patience gives them emotional space to consider your ideas, whereas hostility gives them an incentive to shoot you down reflexively as a way to defend themself.


  • As far as I know (and I’ve looked), the only actual evidence of his fate is that, at the end of the video, he is ushered off the street by civilians in streetwear. From there, people seem to make conclusions based on an overall impression of the Chinese government as comically evil, rather than any specific or credible evidence (or indeed any evidence at all) related to this guy in particular.

    Which is somewhat understandable, don’t get me wrong – no one investigates everything they hear. We try to gauge the overall picture and then, once we’re convinced (rightly or wrongly), we tend to accept or reject new information on the basis of that picture. Everyone does this. I do it. That’s why US propaganda is so effective. It works by sheer volume and repetition, amplified by a compliant media. Once that “comically evil Chinese government” picture is established, people will believe new details that fit the picture. Many stories collapse under scrutiny, but as long as they carry no consequences for ordinary Americans – as opposed to, say, “Saddam has WMDs” – skepticism spreads slowly, and meanwhile new stories are piled on top.