This person doesn’t live in reality

I worked in pharma at one point. I was not working in a scientific capacity, but in a role where I had to be familiar with testing, and the way safety data sheets are updated. I get very frustrated at any black and white depiction of the “experimental drug”.

It’s a very grey area.

Anyone who claims they had the same grasp on the long term effects of a new class of drugs, and a drug that had only existed for a few months, is not being honest. You can’t know the effects that may occur two years down the line after seven months of testing. Famously the Johnson and Johnson Janssen vaccine had to be briefly “paused” for re-evaluation due to the TSS (blood clot issue) risk before it was deemed a worthwhile risk. Still millions of people were exposed to the risk of this rare side effect which would more likely have been discovered over a 2 year trial.

That doesn’t mean they didn’t have a very good understanding of the safety risks. They were able to make a competent risk analysis. It also doesn’t mean that they didn’t conduct all the tests or go through all the procedures. The rapid approval and deployment was not due to cutting corners it was mostly due to cutting burocracy and getting the supply chain ready before they even knew what drug would be approved.

The COVID vaccine was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history. It was an overwhelming success, and likely saved millions of lives (check the excess deaths studies during the pandemic), trillions of dollars, and had an immeasurably positive effect on public mental health.

Most of the rest of the argument is bullshit too.

• While many things were closed, and others were limited, we weren’t locked in our homes. Many small businesses folded due to those limitations, but it wasn’t a mandated prison term for the public.
• As far as vaccine mandates there were no sweeping federal mandates on the public (though there was an attempt), and institutions in the US have always been allowed to have vaccine mandates for safety and readiness. George Washinton inoculated the Continental army with live small pox. I needed my shots to go to a public school 40+ years ago. It’s not tyranny to decline to work with or employ someone who needlessly presents a severe safety risk to the rest of the organization.

Ahh yes, kings, long known for their association with vaccines

Cough on them and when they ask you to stop call them an authoritarian.

Orders were not blindly obeyed, they were thoughtfully considered to counter a public health crisis. The vaccine was not experimental, that shit has been debunked many times. Bringing up COVID as a response to people being upset about Americans being kidnapped off the street and sent to concentration camps in other countries is such a deeply false equivalency that it only shows that this guy has zero actual argument against no kings and just wants to rehash tired libertarian talking points instead of thinking critically.

Everyone knows real anti-authoritarianism is about getting hella sick for no reason

Historical revisionism is part and parcel of fascism.

This is just willfully stupid, RANDOM PEOPLE are getting deported to countries THEY AREN’T FROM by ICE which is just brownshirts/gestapo aka literally nazi shit.

The GOP is trying to normalize any speech in opposition to the foreign policy of the party in power as literally terrorism.

Your libertarian friends are idiots who don’t know what they are talking about, treat them like the children they are.

Nobody was forced to stay at home because of covid, nobody was reported to the authorities for going outside. Some people got removed from private property, though. When the death toll was at its highest, some people were being refused hospital care over covid because beds were filling up and it was a danger to other people to even provide such treatment.

Covid passed all of its trials, it’s just that those trials were carried out at a much faster rate than normal. All of the early human trials were opt-in for vulnerable individuals which would likely die without the vaccine.

Reminder that Donald Trump was the president during the first year of covid, too. The same Trump tearing down the white house, trying to force The Fed Governors out of their positions to replace them with cronies, disappearing real us citizens, ignoring habeas corpus, prosecuting protestors, and now trying to take away peoples guns.

And don’t forget about his admin and the GOP as a whole embezzling funds into big pharma by pushing hoax cures like Hydroxychloroquine.

translation: “I hate you! You can’t make me eat my vegetables!”

It’s only Libertarianism if it comes from the Libértarièr region of France. Otherwise it’s just sparkling conservatism.

It’s stupid. Staying away from potentially sick people is common sense, someone the pro fascists lack despite how often they bring it up.

A million people died. Most likely wouldn’t have if idiots like this hadn’t give out of their way to buck every single attempt to stop spreading the fucking disease.

Being Libertarian

It’s one brain cell firing and reacting to a residual signal from the initial fire. The only thing that keeps it going is its own stupidity.

Trusting scientists has absolutely nothing to do with kings at all…

Friend posts stupid shit to fb. Id like to hear your responses.