• infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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    Yeah my dad is retired today, but back when he was in college he was a pizza delivery guy for a hot minute… Until his car got t-boned in an intersection. He was OK with minor injuries, but he was delivering pizza during the most violent event of his life!

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    13 hours ago

    Dunno how things are in America, but at lest here in continental Europe, during the pandemic, the app-economy delivery shit was mostly run by befuddled immigrants. Who got absolutely screwed over what comes to fair wages. Not to mention the fact that most of the small and medium sized restaurants that had an existing delivery services basically got bullied to joining the app-economy shit. It’s capitalism in it’s raw form. Fuck all of these apps.

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      6 hours ago

      Some of my local restaurants had to cut their own delivery service and only use DoorDash. There’s approximately 3 places that deliver near me now, it absolutely sucks.

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      No, genuinely, fuck these apps. I’m dashing to survive right now, and it’s a fucking joke. You make just enough to cover your gas and collect a tiny bit for paying whatever pressing, dire thing it is that day, and never make enough to cover the taxes you’re going to owe or the maintenance on your vehicle. And guess what? You also can’t seem to earn enough to get decent clothes for an interview, or the extra gas to drive to one. I’m lucky I have family support, if I didn’t… I don’t want to think about it

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        There used to be a way to game Flex/Whole Foods and make decent cash in a couple (early morning or late) hours. Afternoons were even better if you could get the shifts, flirt with people for better tips, and Amazon probably only kept like 40% of the tips. I could hit $120-150 usually in 2 hours. But other drivers would do the shadiest shit to get the blocks before you, like hanging cell phones in trees

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        11 hours ago

        If you really break it down they’re not really covering your time. They’re just paying you to extract value from your car on their behalf.

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          11 hours ago

          Neither of them are available in my area. Both are available about 45 minutes away, and I’ve been considering it. On a good shift, if I make the drive to a nearby city, I can 200 in a night… But I’m getting more and more cynical, to be honest. I’m exhausted of it.

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            11 hours ago

            I mean honestly 200 in a night really is not bad at all. Think about the alternatives of where you’d be able to get a part-time job working the same amount of hours and come anywhere close to earning that kind of money.

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              In order to make that, I have to go to a city 45 minutes away. So that’s 15 in gas to get to work. Then I’ll spend around 65 on gas for dashing. Then 15 back home. And I’ll need to pay taxes out of the remaining, plus wear and tear on the vehicle. It’s not as bad as it could be, but it’s not as good as it sounds, either. The solution is to make dashers employees with healthcare and everything else.

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              Ya, but you gotta factor in the higher taxes, as I’m sure it ends up being a 1099, you’re looking at a third gone right there. Insurance money, both for the car and health insurance. Gas money, and finally wear and tear on the vehicle. Be lucky to clear 40$ off 200 when it’s all said and done.

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        Okay so I know it’s cool to shit on these apps and shit on how much you’re making and everything like that, however without apps like this if you think about it we’d have to be back to driving everywhere to go eat at most places most restaurants profits would be down still and you would have to work at those shit restaurants for even worse pay. And that would be just to barely cover your bills, battery you’d have to work some shitty retail job at night or on the weekends to be able to cover anything which also doesn’t pay that much. So frankly people should just be happy that they have an option to be able to do something like doordash or Uber or Lyft or anything else like that. And honestly if people didn’t like it then they don’t have to do it and if people didn’t want to use the service that they don’t have to use the service. Everybody is always going to complain about some industry and some jobs some place for some reason.

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          however without apps like this if you think about it we’d have to be back to driving everywhere to go eat at most places most restaurants profits would be down still and you would have to work at those shit restaurants for even worse pay

          How about instead of all that we go back to people making their own food at home and let the restaurant industry die off altogether

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            Yes, I did that for several years. Didn’t make much money, and wrecked a car. But the amount of places you can order from now has moved from Chinese and pizza to everything.

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          Delivery being shit is because capitalism captures the market faster than any federated or worker controlled efforts. Corporate starvation wages are thanks to deregulation by neoliberal capitalist cultists. Needing to drive for food itself is a creation of capitalists that lobbied against walkable cities and public transit. This idea of capitalism letting consumers decide how the economy works is a fantasy.

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          The problem with these apps isn’t that they’re providing the wrong service. The problem is that I am a fucking employee of door dash being treated like I’m an independent contractor. As if I’m a tradesman, a plumber, being brought in on a contract for a plumbing job. I’m not. I’m a delivery driver. Pizza joints the nation over managed to have employee drivers for decades, door dash can manage it too

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      11 hours ago

      In the US, DoorDash is also mostly immigrants and young people.

      Though instacart and uber is a bit different. I would guess you make more money on instacart, but the requires some additional skill and time.

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    11 hours ago

    Especially in the USA. Knock on the “wrong” door and the asshole inside will greet you with bullets.

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    I’m tired of the victim complex of out pizza delivery drivers they insist they hold society together single handed and are targeted by “the worst of the worst”.

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      I don’t think I did it long enough, and it was a long time ago so probably safer in some respects. I did deliver to some very sketchy places that I didn’t have great feelings about, but nothing ever happened. I will say that I was more likely to get a better proportional tip from the “worse” places than from the well-to-do mini-mansions. Even got a tip once in handfuls of loose change. Sounds cheap, but it was all they had and far more than those rich snobs would do. The giveaway is when you’d ask them if they wanted change back (this was back when credit was still a new thing and we did cash or check). There would be two groups - the ones who said yes but were okay with rounding to the nearest dollar, and then the ones who got pissed because you didn’t have change to the penny. For the latter, fuck you and your pizza.

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      It took me 3 months. Luckily it was just a wrong address, and I’m white. It could have been a different story if it were darker or if I were.

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        11 hours ago

        I did delivery for almost 20.years. Never had a gun pulled on me, couple of knives though. My 6 D-Cell Maglight convinced those two idiots to go find an easier mark.

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    In Vexillology (the study of flags), when you change the colour, symbols or any image of a flag, it’s a sign to everyone else that you’ve changed your allegiance from the first flag and now stand with the new flag.

    This is the problem with the idea of the Thin Blue Line flag … it shows that they no longer stand with America, it shows they now only stand for themselves and their cop friends and not America.

    Flags are important because they convey an idea without words which is important for those people who are illiterate … symbols and flags are easily understood by everyone regardless of their education.

    So I think delivery drivers in America would be better served if they flew the flag that they would be most proud to stand by … which is …

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      What boot licking violent racist Christmas adventurers club-ass shitheel is still loyal to that symbol of slavery, of oppression, of imperialism and injustice?

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      Proud … Not sure delivery drivers really have much to be proud of under that flag.

      Worst “first world” worker protections. Highest healthcare costs. Largest disparity between lowest and highest compensated.

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      Vexillology is not a science that can decide what stuff means to people, though. People waving the “thin blue line” flag are idiots, we don’t need some special science to see that.

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      I mean you do realize that the flag of America does not stand for as many people as you think it does. And it never has. I haven’t stood for the flag for a very long time as native American because fuck the people that it stands for. I used to be very patriotic and then America proved who it actually is. Now I would never fly that flag anywhere near myself or my property or my vehicles.

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      the problem is that this flag has become pretty compromised since it is so frequently flown alongside overt fascist symbols and has a long history of being affiliated with covert fascist movements

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      Flags are important because they convey an idea without words which is important for those people who are illiterate …

      So THAT’S why all the cops have a flag on their uniform: to remind them which people they’re supposed to pretend to serve and protect when they feel like it.