Do you know how often bourgeois democracies elect “socialists”? Hell, many of them even elect “communists” on the regular. It’s normal. Get over it. Please.
EDIT - there are basically two main genres of Mamdani poster, both of which keep scrawling MAMDANI on the wall in their own excrement for different reasons, and they all seem to be assuming I am from the other side lol
it’ll stop being a struggle session once people realize nobody is ever going to be elected to be the second coming of Lenin
“Second coming of Lenin” is always a strawman, stand-in for “don’t behave exactly like every other democrat, don’t hire fascists, don’t vote for defensive weapons to israel” etc
I’m tired of hearing about the imperialist mayor, and I’m almost as tired of hearing stawmans like this in defense of the imperialist mayor.
what a nonsensical pair of words. also he’s not the mayor yet.
He’s been elected to the position of mayor and he’s an imperialist. If it’s better, I can say “mayor-elect who repeats and agrees with imperialist talking points”.
his shitty statements on geopolitics are not germane to his powers in office or the material ways his succdemery will disappoint us.
Shitty statements on geopolitics which include but may not be limited to:
Genocide defending and imperialism is fine as long as he makes new yorkers pay less rent for a while.
yes we already know he’s an american politician
Do you not think that Americans are capable of better than this? If not, then doesn’t that mean Zohran sucks and always will, as well as every other American?
When the entire so-called “American left” gets behind candidates who say these things, it manufactures consent for sanctions and interventions among the people that think of themselves as “leftists” and among the rest who think “see, even the loony left knows these brown people are evil”.
If his influence were confined to the single city, I wouldn’t be hearing about him constantly. Since I’m not from New York, I care about his laundering of imperialism much more than anything he might do as mayor.
since when does the opinion of the american people matter? and normies are like 2:1 against fucking venezuela because there hasn’t been a 9/11 to get us to the rabid levels of support invading iraq had at the time.
fuck zohran for that, but i don’t think it changed public opinion at all, and public opinion on foreign affairs doesn’t matter to trump or the rest of the federal government or the capitalists anyway.
Glad we’re on the same page and you understand why some people dislike him quite a lot.
I can’t wait till 2 weeks from now when this excuse expires
remind me of the foreign policy functions of mayors?
call my uncle an imperialist truck driver like his shitty politics are relevant to his job
Burlington, Vermont is a lot smaller than the financial capital of the world; and Bernie still got busy. Jessica Tisch’s opinions on international politics matter in her enforcement of local law in NYC, yet we’re supposed to pretend it’s irrelevant when he keeps her around or pushes the imperialist line on Venezuela . Are we claiming equivalent political weight between blue collar workers and mayor of one of the most important cities in the country?
Her opinions on international politics matter because the NYPD has offices in other countries lmao
There are a million reasons Marxists shouldn’t pretend New York politics are separate from international politics, and that’s one of them
Are you referring to Israel specifically? Where else I’m curious
Is your uncle also a politician? “Mayor” isn’t just a job, especially with the platform he has had.
I think a lot of people just like complaining and would rather complain about the dsa types than trump.
Which I don’t get, like yeah zohran isn’t gonna do communism nobody fucking thought that.
But like at least put this energy into attacking trump?
Idk it’s weird
Attacking trump does nothing, at least there’s a possibility DSA people can improve. Some of them are even actual radicals already, although they’re a minority.
Yeah, basically this. Most data suggests a large portion of Americans aren’t exactly big on trump. Criticizing him is good small talk— or agitation with specific issues—but isn’t a tactical question. If you convince a DSA type that no social-chauvinism isn’t the path forward then you have someone who touches grass and talks to people doing it to build worker power instead of just canvas for a social-imperialist.
Counterpoints:
I mean if you try to form any violent group RN you’re an idiot and will 100% get caught in a Kash Pattel FBI honeypot like those Anarchists in LA
Oh, I agree but from what I’ve seen whining in the direction of DSA at least gets them to have some struggles sessions (or at the bare least argue if something may be right), Like how some of their chapters/caucuses are signed onto a letter calling for Zohran to dump Tisch. So if we’re arguing a “the complaining should have value,” argument, complaining about DSA types has more use. If the view is the complaining is pointless and just venting the DSA SIOs are can at least be whined about with mental spiraling and the call to adventure. Also, there is something about someone proclaiming to be of the same viewpoint as you then staunching acting against that which can be especially grating in comparison to them calling themselves something entirely different. It’s why you see dozens of people constantly polemicizing against national socialism, national Bolshevism, ACP-types, in a way they don’t MAGA. If a fascist goes “I’m a fascist” vs. “I’m a communist” you only are going to need to argue with one of those statements.
for my money, the people constantly attacking him with rehashed shit from months ago are mad at someone who they made up in their heads who does think that.