I live in farm country, and pay for farm labor is usually very fair. It’s seasonal work in remote locations, but the pay isn’t bad at all. Also most the migrant farm laborers only stay for the season, that is if it isn’t too hostile for them to try working the season in the first place.
Strange, what mysterious land is this where farm laborers are paid fairly. I have traveled to every continent and 40+ countries visiting thousands of farms. Never have I found a place where farm laborers were paid fairly. They are always the abused serfs of the society working long hours for little pay.
I have seen human suffering in vast quantities but never a fair wage.
Yes capitalism is a harsh load of ass everywhere, but the farm jobs I’VE WORKED, aren’t lower pay than other jobs available in capitalism. They tend to be better than average, and farms tend to raise the offer year to year as they are straining for more labor.
The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.”
“Starvation” wages is a term that gets thrown around as hyperbole. I guess “undervalued for the amount of labour put in at a brutal level compared to the local average” would be more appropriate, but doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well.
my local farmers use immigrant workers on starvation wages to harvest their crops. is that what you mean by supporting the local economy?
I live in farm country, and pay for farm labor is usually very fair. It’s seasonal work in remote locations, but the pay isn’t bad at all. Also most the migrant farm laborers only stay for the season, that is if it isn’t too hostile for them to try working the season in the first place.
Strange, what mysterious land is this where farm laborers are paid fairly. I have traveled to every continent and 40+ countries visiting thousands of farms. Never have I found a place where farm laborers were paid fairly. They are always the abused serfs of the society working long hours for little pay.
I have seen human suffering in vast quantities but never a fair wage.
Yes capitalism is a harsh load of ass everywhere, but the farm jobs I’VE WORKED, aren’t lower pay than other jobs available in capitalism. They tend to be better than average, and farms tend to raise the offer year to year as they are straining for more labor.
Your personal experience where you live is not how it is everywhere and is not everyones experience.
Then the same logic should be applied to the personal experience conveyed above that one
The point of the original reply was to point out that farmers markets and their pricing aren’t always the ethical choice, and its dependent on where you live. You’re saying “no, it always is, because I live in a farm community and it is here.”
Two local people shared different local experiences and I’m not sure why you think either is more valid than the other.
This was exactly my point. Thank you
Because one guy is pointing out that farmers markets arent ethical everywhere and the other guy is trying to invalidate that.
There are some places where they are not ethical.
There are some places where they are.
They’re both actually saying the same thing. I don’t understand how two people saying the same thing could possibly be invalidating each other.
Uhhh…can you point to where I said that?
I meant the guy i replied to originally.
…can you point to where the guy you replied to originally said that? Because that didn’t happen, either.
Indeed. But ‘starvation’ wages aren’t typical in migrant farm work.
“Starvation” wages is a term that gets thrown around as hyperbole. I guess “undervalued for the amount of labour put in at a brutal level compared to the local average” would be more appropriate, but doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well.