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    3 months ago

    Ok, but except for the fact that you think high taxes on the rich will scare them off everything else isn’t “fiscal conservatism” and you’ll get it by voting further left, not right. So far, Carney’s government has fired tens of thousands of employees during a highly dangerous time to be unemployed in, removed environmental protections to allow oil and gas companies to attack our land without review, cut funding all over the place, and still found $8.8bil to give to developers as development fee cuts that the consumer will never see the benefit of. There’s no responsibility there, he’s just giving away all our money to rich people and screwing everyone else in the process.

    Everyone who thinks he’s doing even a remotely good job is a fool. This isn’t hidden stuff, it’s all headlining even the CBC but you can find it all over.

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      He’s stimulating the economy. I agree that lowering federal workforce isn’t good - unless it’s very specific cutting at inefficiencies, and it never seems to be. Giving developers a time limited incentive is to boost building and help with employment as well as the housing crisis. Oil development sucks, but it’s a huge contributor to the government’s budget - if that dries up, we will be forced to shut down more social programs. It’s all a balance. That’s what a centrist government does, and it’s never going to make everyone happy. But the alternative is to have diametrically opposed radical sides and we ping pong back and forth causing untold damage.

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        Seriously? One of the most basic, fundamental aspects of a strong economy is one where small amounts of money change hands often. Instead, Carney has given huge tax breaks to the rich and is participating in trickle-down economics which was a term invented to make idiots think that giving all their money to rich people would somehow help them out. “Stimulating the economy” get outta here.

        The NDP is not extreme. They are not asking for all private property to disappear, they are not asking for a 99% wealth tax, they are not asking for completely open borders, etc., you just consider them that way because we have three parties and you are not looking at platforms objectively, only in relation to one another. The Carney Liberals are conservatives but because the big C Conservatives are further right you believe them to be boring little centrists. Your view of our political landscape lacks any kind of nuance and you should really work on that because we are fucked otherwise.

        You want the center so bad yet we’ve been crawling to the right every election for decades and you don’t see the problem. The center you’re imagining has become objectively right-wing and you aren’t noticing. They aren’t hiding it, please just pay attention.

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          Oh the creep to the right is certainly a problem, I don’t disagree. I personally have voted ndp in both federal and provincial elections except when clear abc strategic voting came into play. I’m just explaining why the liberals as the closest to centrists are the default and what most Canadians want. Especially as our neighbours to the south go crazy, people want as stable as possible. The ndp does have some potentially destabilizing ideas; I personally trust them just as I trusted the bob Rae Ontario ndp and when they got power they were very responsibly (which pissed off lot of radical lefties and made them hate him, so we bounced back to the right, sigh).

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            What I’m trying to say is that if you poll most Canadians they don’t want that shit. We have been told for so long that progressive ideas are only possible in dreamland and that things would be too expensive and then we just never question that. In reality, not investing in people and instead handing all our money to the ultra-rich just screws us over. There are people who would have said that Harper was too far right and yet will vote Liberal just because it’s in between two other parties(despite being barely left of the Conservatives).

            The “destabilizing” also needs examples because a) yes, we are too deep into capitalism now so we have to make big moves and b) are they really, or are they just unfamiliar? And why are their moves “destabilizing” but Carney firing tens of thousands of people and continuing to drive us towards intense economic disaster just “normal”? We need to start thinking for ourselves or we are nothing.