• EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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    and physical address

    Can homeless people not get phones under this proposal? Not that they give a shit about homeless people, but it is a valid concern.

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    They did this in Hong Kong already. Everyone still gets spam. People who make a living off of this will find a way.

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      Has nothing to do with spam and everything to know who you are. Spammers don’t use “burner phones”.

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        yes, I know, I’m just pointing out that it won’t even work on its supposed intended goal lol

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            “Ok Mr Senator, then how about we add free school lunches to this bill. For a large portion of children this is the only meal they get per day.”

            fuck off

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      Spam was never done with “burner phones” in the first place, it’s mostly done via VoIP through shady telecoms companies that can’t be bothered to validate their customers. Due to the age of the phone system it’s incredibly easy to spoof phone numbers because it’s essentially a trust system. Phone exchange A talks to exchange B and says phone number 123 is calling number 456. How does exchange B know that it’s actually 123 calling? They don’t at all, they just trust that exchange A is telling the truth. It’s really hard to get into the system, but once you’re there you essentially have unlimited power with virtually no safeguards in place.

      Basically from a security perspective the phone system looks a lot like the 1980s internet, there is technically some security in place, but significantly less than there actually should be.

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        In the US at least they’ve been implementing STIR/SHAKEN since about 2020. You can typically see the result of this on your cell phone. Incoming calls should have a little checkmark next to them meaning they’re a verified caller. It’s similar to SSL certs for domain names but for callers instead. (Shady crap for the root CAs but that’s a different issue…cause America).

        This isn’t a perfect system as parts of the world that call into the US don’t have VoIP equipment but the FCC has other guidelines on top of STIR/SHAKEN. They are actively trying to mitigate spam but it takes awhile to revamp something as old as the worlds phone system.

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    If they do this I’m going to go VoIP only it’ll be a pain. It’s so absurd the oligarchy corpos are pushing for as many business to collect all the user ID photos they can. With all the data leaks that happen it’s only going to be a matter of time before stealing someones ID is as easy as stealing anyones ssn. Things will be less secure not more

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      Note how the government isn’t going after gun ownership as vehemently as they are digital privacy. They know that it doesn’t matter how many guns the people have, if they can’t communicate anonymously (or at all), then any sort of uprising will be small and easily quashed.

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    It looks like a conspiracy theorist site, and the article comes across as, but both are legit.

    • workerONE@lemmy.world
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      It’s not a conspiracy theory site. It’s a reputable news organization founded and run by a small team of journalists. Their reporting is great. Check it out