• Fishnoodle@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Absolute fucking bullshit. There’s no harm in having the test. If you can drive safely, you’ll pass the test. And if I have to take a day off work to haul my ass to the dmv to get a new photo taken every few years when my license expires, a retiree can certainly find the time.

    The problem with the elderly is that they’re basically children. They don’t always know when their actions, or inability to act quickly, will end up harming someone else. They would also rather lie than suffer the indignity of having to show they are qualified to operate a vehicle.

    • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      The problem I have with taking away licenses from the elderly is NOT the the part where we take them away from dangerous drivers but what we do after. And by “what we do after” is absolutely nothing. We don’t have any extra accommodations for transport given to them in place of taking their license away.

      Now, that’s dependent on the location. Cities will have Senior transport programs, etc. But they are never on par with actually owning a car in our infrastructure.

      But if we are taking away a license from some rural living person that uses it to get groceries once a week but fails to parallel park. Yeah, it’s not so clear cut on the damage it does to these peoples lives. So, they fight against it.

      To be clear, I WANT to take away the license of every unsafe driver. Old, young, doesn’t matter. I see you texting and driving in a world ruled by my laws it would be jail.

      I’m exaggerating. But you get my point.

      In conclusions, the reason these laws get reversed is because there are no means of transport alternatives in this car dependent hellscape we live in. So, rather than work on that problem, these objectively good laws (requiring retesting) get removed, instead of what really needs to happen; which is removal of car dependence for everyone with a priority starting with the elderly.

      • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 days ago

        Truth be told, at least 1/3 of the drivers out there should have their licenses yanked and be given generous access to public options: Buses, trains, rides, etc.

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      3 days ago

      They say its because they are the safest drivers but I mean. Maybe that is because of the yearly test they have to do. They are still requiring the vision test.

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        3 days ago

        They are the safest drivers because everyone is smashing into each other to avoid these folks looking for the early bird buffet at 20mph

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            3 days ago

            I mean it was a hyperbolic example, the point being that they often drive much slower than the posted limit and/or the speed of traffic, have problems merging, accelerate extremely slowly, brake unpredictably, or are confused. Of course the same could be said about any driver, but it’s just a basic fact of physiology that human faculties decline with age and that operating a heavy motor vehicle at that time can be hazardous, especially with the size of vehicles today.

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              3 days ago

              I have seen nothing to indicated this than people stereotyping them. I think its kinda the opposite. driving the speed limit or maybe even 5 under. which is actually the way people are supposed to drive but other drivers expect a minimum of 5 over and feel that 10 is normal and 5 is the slow side of acceptable.

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                3 days ago

                It’s all things I have witnessed in my 30 years of personal experience as a driver, it’s not stereotypes, it’s basic human biology

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                  2 days ago

                  stereotypes come from individuals percieved personal experience. Heck even more diverse because then you get little groups that talk together and confirm each others biases and it kinda grows from there.

    • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Yep there should be more road testing required as you get older, required for renewals every 5 or 10 years after age 60

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        Honestly, just do it every ten years for everyone. Then the blue hairs can’t claim agism, and the idiots who decide it’s fine when they run stop signs will need to demonstrate that they understand traffic laws.

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          10 years is too long. There is a big difference between a 70 and 80 year old driving. Bigger from 80 to 90. And everyone else could deal with more frequent reinforcement of good driving habits too. I think every 2 years is probably about right. Sure, it would be inconvenient, but it would definitely save lives.

    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      While I want to agree because I expect I’d pass the test, this would further burden a system that is already wildly underfunded and understaffed. You think wait times are bad now? Imagine how bad it would be if every single driver had to retake their test, instead of just signing a form saying their info was up-to-date. Wait times for a simple license renewal would be measured in months instead of hours.

      • Burninator05@lemmy.world
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        In Louisiana you take your road test at the same commercial place that teaches you to drive. Once you pass they give you the documentation you need to take to the DMV to get your license. Except some of the commercial title places can do that too. Lots of people will pay for the convenience of not going ro the DMV. Given the state, I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the Sec of State owns a chain of these places.

  • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    No, Chicago has a really coherent traffic layout

    Also, my employer docked my paycheck because I didn’t follow the prescribed route… That was just garbled text

    Also, please rescind my mother’s driving license