He added that physical and psychological damages “inflicted on each individual of the Iranian nation in the 2nd and 3rd imposed wars, from child killings and war crimes in Minab and Lamerd to attacks on medical centres, is each a legal file that must be pursued in both domestic and international courts.”

He further stated that from the “murder” of newborns and the elderly to the assassination of his father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, “each is a file among thousands of major legal cases that must be earnestly pursued in domestic and international courts”.

“What is definite is that these criminals must be seized by the collar and brought to justice for their criminal deeds,” he asserted.

Never in my life could I have expected to agree with the Iranian government. But, on this specific issue? I do. There needs to be accountability for this.

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      The messenger is awful

      I’ll take ten Mojtaba Khameneis over one Pete Hegseth. Hell, I’ll take a Khamenei over Keir Starmer, at this point.

      Of course, he’s little more than a figurehead under the current Iranian government, given that their Parliament can’t safely convene and their military is fully operating via the Mosaic Strategy of decentralized retaliation against ongoing US/Israeli bombardment. I’m not sure why people have decided he’s a bad leader, given that he hasn’t made any meaningful leadership decisions since taking office.

      But I guess he’s Muslim and unseasonably tan, so that’s enough to make him a bad guy.

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        I’m not sure why people have decided he’s a bad leader, given that he hasn’t made any meaningful leadership decisions since taking office.

        Probably something to do with the fact that he was in a position to become the leader of such a repressive government to begin with. Maybe he will break with past policies and be a champion for women’s rights and LGBTQ+ causes, but if someone was already tipped to take over the reigns of such a government, I assume vetting processes mean he’s generally onboard with what the government was doing beforehand unless I see them taking actions that show otherwise. At this point, who knows how he’ll be, as he’s been set up with something of a PR softball in responding to an aggressive war lead by Israel and the US. Postwar, we’ll see how he shakes out domestically.

        That said, I’m still hoping the Iranians just trounce their enemies in this conflict. Whether he’ll ultimately represent an improvement for the Iranian people over his predecessor or not has nothing to do with the fact that he’s on the right side of the current conflict and crushing it at the moment.

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          I think it’s a trap to think of countries which haven’t been allowed to thrive by basically the entire west as failing on values that they virtually never think about. Is it really that surprising that sanctions lead to regression or stagnation on civil rights of minority groups? They have been under sanctions since 1979. In 1979 how did our LGBTQ+ representation look?

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            I’ll be the first to accept that Iran, just like Cuba and any other country under long term sanctions from the US for refusing to kowtow to US demands, is essentially crippled from the start and unable to function as well as they could have without that ongoing interference. However, that doesn’t negate things that they’ve done on their own, like harsh repression of protests or that lady who was sentenced to being whipped for singing a song without wearing a hijab the other day.

            I’m basically saying that my view of him is like my view of whoever wound up being Putin’s handpicked successor would be. I find them suspect by virtue of passing the screening process to even wind up in that position to begin with, and that will only change if they start taking actions that are at odds with their predecessors’ once in power. If his other positions turn out to be even half as good as his stance against Israel and the US in the current war on Iran has been, I will be happy to realize that my suspicions were unfounded. At the same time, just because they’re in the right on this specific topic doesn’t mean they are flawless in other aspects. Like, the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church was surprisingly progressive for civil rights for African Americans for a white guy in Kansas in the 1960s, but you won’t catch me singing Fred Phelps’ praises in light of all the other heinous stuff he’s done in his life.

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            US-style Liberals were the ones parroting the whole “Israel is pro-LGBTQ+” propaganda as they mass murdered Palestinians, as if the Israeli bombs and bullets magically avoided killing gender orientation minority members.

            Being an equal opportunity mass murder isn’t the great thing these people try to portray it as.

            And, yeah, this also applies to the US which in the last couple of decades has murdered hundreds of thousands in the Middle East.

            Guess if one doesn’t count foreign lives as worth the same as the lives of one’s countrymem, one can actually deceive oneself into thinking that the pile of bones on top of which one’s “liberal” regime sits is a moral high ground.

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            How do sanctions prevent civil rights? That’s kind of a nonsense connection, do you have any actual direct evidence of such a connection and I’m pretty sure it’s in this case pretty much totally related to the regressive theocratic regime. Sanctions aren’t forcing this regressive theocratic discrimination, the regressive theocratic culture is. Admittedly sanctions created conditions for them to take power but they were already there already discriminating to the best of their power.

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                Yes and that obviously directly causes a violent regressive patriarchal theocratic dictatorship, thanks for explaining! Give your fuckin balls a tug.

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                  Because the dictatorship thrives when its people are poorer, people with no food and shelter are just going to shut the fuck up and do what the dictator says to survive.

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        I’ll take a Khamenei over Keir Starmer

        I’d take a khamenei ruling under current day British law over keir starmer ruling under the current day judicial system of the Islamic Republic of Iran though. Be careful what you wish for.

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          keir starmer ruling under the current day judicial system of the Islamic Republic of Iran

          The state of Reform UK and it’s enormous polling advantage suggest we might get exactly that

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          In case you didn’t notice, in England when in a recent court case were after the Jury made their guilty decision the Judge added Terrorism, British law isn’t the Fair Rule Of Law system you think it is.

          I also remember the case of the posh public school educated (which actually means “expensive private college” educates, as Brits call those “public schools” whilst what other people call public schools they call “state schools”) who a High Court Judge (who are themselves also overwhelmingly part of the minority of upper middle-class/wealthy people educated in said very expensive private colleges) gave a second conviction for Fraud and then let him go without a punishment with the rationale that “the shame of a conviction is punishment enough”.

          The Law as practiced in Britain isn’t a Blind Justice and Fair Rule of Law system, though in High Courts it definitelly has a far above average level of dressing up and theatrics.

          No idea how good or bad Justice is in Iran, but I’m a lot more familiar to how it goes in Britain.

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            O there is plenty of judicial systems i’d prefer over the British one, don’t get me wrong, Iran’s just isn’t one of them.

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        The Iranian regime are misogynistic, homophobic warmongers.

        A female singer was recently whipped for openly singing without a hair covering.

        The urban Iranians have been calling for these leeches to fuck off for years and are murdered en-masse for standing up to them as a result and their dead cold bodies hung from street lights as a warning to everyone else. We have seen huge mass demonstrations constantly attacked by the regime’s thugs on motorbikes.

        Israel and the US were wrong to attack Iran back in March, and were wrong to have murdered anyone. They are equally violent, warmongering murderous regimes probably more so.

        But let’s not infantilise the Iranian islamic regime and system, it’s a system where a violent, corrupt theocracy that refuses to listen to its own people.

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          The Iranian regime are misogynistic, homophobic warmongers.

          The American media paints them as such to whip up domestic hate and justify mass murder.

          It’s so much easier to show a flattened building or bloody backpack if you can tell yourself “these are savage animals, not people, and they got what they deserved”

          A female singer was recently whipped

          A story about an appeals case centering on a 2024 indecency conviction was resurrected by the US media to justify the ongoing war.

          The singer wasn’t “recently whipped”. She was recently in court contesting the charges.

          But let’s not infantilise the Iranian islamic regime and system

          What do you think “infantilise” means and why does it justify sponsoring terrorism inside the country?

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            Are you equivocating for a regime that can’t be removed from power whipping women for singing without wearing a hair covering there.

            You’re right she wasn’t whipped she was found guilty and will be whipped.

            it’s a barbaric regime and the Iranian people are sick of the tollahs wasting their nations wealth on funding wars in other countries while cost of living consumes them, if they protest they get murdered by the state.

            The clerics have been filling their own pockets with the country’s wealth since 1979, they are as crooked as trump and year after year the Iranian people bravely go out on the streets to protest them and are gunned down.

            Islamism is a terrible political solution that can only be kept in power by force and repression.

            Fuck the Iranian regime.

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              a regime that can’t be removed from power whipping women

              Do you know how the IRGC got into power to begin with? And does the existence of Regime Change make corporal punishment acceptable, somehow?

              it’s a barbaric regime and the Iranian people are sick of the tollahs wasting their nations wealth

              How quickly we’ve moved from the inhumanity of prisoner abuse (in Muslim countries) to the inhumanity of Iranians spending their oil money wrong.

              Crazy how it all comes back to money with you sick fucks.

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          Which war Iran started? The war monger is you manufacturing consent for the war of agression on Iran

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            I don’t actually believe this is true but I’m willing to reconsider if there’s actual proof. If he’s actually a pedophile I’d advocate for his killing as I do for everyone who hurts kids.

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          Well, he’s the wrong kind of Muslim. If he was a Saudi or a Jordanian or one of Israel’s pet Muslims in Ra’am, all these critiques would vanish.

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          I would say it’s the oppression of women and minorities, but what do I know?

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              If you think they’re at the same level, you’re insane. There was an Iranian singer who had the gaul to sing without a hijab recently! She was sentenced to 74 lashes. The US has plenty of misogynistic issues, but it’s not even close to the same level.

              I have no issue with Muslims/Arabs. I lived with one in college, who was one of my closest friends. However, he also had plenty of issues with the fundamentalists. He was a bi atheist from Saudi Arabia. Whenever he visited, he had to essentially change who he was. In the US he was allowed to mostly do what he wanted freely.

              We should always strive to be better, but these are totally different levels. There’s hardly even any way to compare them. Cut out this whataboutism shit.

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                  This started because someone agreed that the war crimes are bad. That isn’t in question. It just also stated the regime is bad. People rushed to defend it though, which is how this started. This comment thread is about that. Saying the regime isn’t bad because the US is also misogynistic is the whataboutism. Do you follow? It isn’t saying that it’s wrong. It’s just deflecting. Either defend it or don’t. Come to terms with it instead of just saying “but the US is also bad to women!”

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      Whoever’s idea it was to use fucking Grok for targeting with no human intervention. And the “haven’t washed my hands in a decade” douchebag, Pete Kegsbreath.

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      And not only for their crimes in Iran but all over the middle east and Latin America , the savagery and barbarism of the Epstein coalition must be punished.