• ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
    61·
    6 hours ago

    I paid off my old phone early and got a grapheneOS phone ASAP just because of these motherfuckers.

    Hell, I was firmly in the Android camp specifically because of the open source nature of their software. I never made the apps I wanted to make, but I like having the option to do so.

    So you can go fuck yourself, google. Yes my phone is a Googlepixel 10 because they work best with grapheneOS. In a few years if I can I will get a Linux phone.

    • madthumbs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      6 hours ago

      They do make a small profit off those phones, while you could’ve simply hit them where it counts with ad-blocking and tracker protection.

  • sexy_peach@feddit.orgEnglish
    3·
    8 hours ago

    I switched to /e/OS and it’s glorious. Just ignore their cloud services. You don’t need them.

  • DiceTrauma@piefed.socialEnglish
    64·
    24 hours ago

    1. Introduce cutting edge tech to the masses, claiming it will usher in a new era of connection, convenience and utility.

    2. Firmly entrench that tech into every corner of modern society so that most day-to-day activities SUPPOSEDLY cannot be done without it.

    3. Slowly tighten the screws by removing user agency and freedom while raising prices.

    4. Become obscenely wealthy from an entire generation of locked-in consumers who think they have no choice but to submit to your control over their lives.

    5. Wash, rinse and repeat.

    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
      24·
      24 hours ago

      And yet none of my friends and family can see this blatantly right in front of them. Have people gotten stupider ? Its as obvious as the sun being hot.

      • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
        1·
        41 minutes ago

        I don’t know if they’re stupid or have just given up or what. I always feel like I’m taking crazy pills when I talk to people about technology. Usually they can’t even acknowledge there’s a problem while I’m so pissed off about it that I’m not sure I could restrain myself from doing physical harm if I found myself in the presence of some of the people responsible for this shit. It’s incredibly frustrating.

      • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
        2·
        2 hours ago

        They never had a problem with it.

        See Windows and Mac.

        Or IOS.

        Or the people who cheered when Epic Games lost their lawsuits.

      • DiceTrauma@piefed.socialEnglish
        16·
        23 hours ago

        It’s that whole frog analogy, where you can slowly boil a frog alive by gradually increasing the temperature by small increments.

        • foo@feddit.uk
          19·
          23 hours ago

          I’m pretty sure that’s a myth, but the analogy is still useful to get the concept across. It simultaneously amuses me and disappoints me that so many humans can be aware of this effect and still not recognise it happening to them, whilst the frogs aren’t actually that stupid and jump out of the water.

      • Addv4@lemmy.world
        9·
        23 hours ago

        Hopefully not coming off as too much of an ass, but normies largely won’t care, as it doesn’t immediately affect them. Knowing it’s a bad thing requires a bit of understanding about an operating system that most people just don’t know or care to learn about.

        • voodooattack@lemmy.world
          4·
          12 hours ago

          We all start out that way. Not everyone is fortunate enough to grow in an environment that grants them access to education and insights into how tech works.

          If you start thinking of others as lesser just because they’re less/uneducated about something then know that someone could be thinking the same of you.

          • cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            1·
            2 hours ago

            As someone who has been offering those insights for longer than many people have been alive: they call you a nerd hate you for trying to make their lives harder and tell you to fuck off, because mastodon takes five seconds and one decision more to register for than Twitter.

            Then ten/fifteen/twenty years later when they panic because you were right about everything, they blame you for Facebook being evil because you knew about it. Despite being the one person they know without a Facebook account.

            You’re making up someone to be mad at, who yells at people for using a GUI and shouts “nooooob!” Without irony. That person sounds unpleasant, and I would like an apology for the assumption that I’m them.

  • manxu@piefed.socialEnglish
    70·
    1 day ago

    I don’t want to laugh about this. I am seriously freaking out at the idea of using the built-in apps instead of the open source equivalents. Calculator with Internet access? Camera app with ads before I click? Browser that spies on me no matter what searches I perform? No thank you.

    • forkDestroyer@infosec.pubEnglish
      5·
      6 hours ago

      The issue is that the masses will use the out of the box functionality and not think much of it. Most normal users don’t mind that they can only pull from official app stores, and like the idea that this system is more secure. If everyone who didn’t like this change stopped using the platform entirely, they would still have enough customers to maintain profitability.

        • forkDestroyer@infosec.pubEnglish
          2·
          3 hours ago

          I understand what you’re saying, but is it not comparatively harder to pass malicious programs into a walled garden (Play store restrictions) compared to being able to be downloaded without any checks?

          • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            2 hours ago

            Yes and no, your average end user trust the Play Store and the promised security which is why an app once it’s inside can get millions of downloads.

            Compare this to trying to get your average user to
            a) trust your selfhosted app and
            b) succeed in installing it.

            Also, I can’t find a single malware that has used f-droid as it’s primary vector.

            • forkDestroyer@infosec.pubEnglish
              1·
              59 minutes ago

              I understand what you’re saying, but the barrier to entry for non technical people to jump into an alt app store is too high. Most are complacent.

              • Axolotl@feddit.it
                1·
                47 minutes ago

                too high

                Literally me and my pal the other day

                Pal: “hey sup, what app do ya use for music? Ya never have ads”

                Me: “Metrolist”

                Pal: “can’t find dat on the playstore”

                Me: “you gotta install it from Droid-ify, just search it, click the first result, then download and scroll until you see app-relase apk and click on that”

                Pal: “oh okay, now?”

                Me: “just click the search bar and type Metrolist duh”

                Literally the simplest shit ever, i agree that it isn’t intuitive for everyone and that’s an issue that should be addressed, Google should be forced to allow F-Droid and other appstores on the play store

    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1·
      52 minutes ago

      No, stop using vanilla corpo software. They will fuck you again. Just put an aftermarket ROM on your android phone. I run LineageOS on an old OnePlus model. You can build it yourself if you’re techy and paranoid, otherwise the tutorials to flash an official prebuilt image are not that hard for a tech-literate person, almost every supported device has a guide page on their wiki.

      F-Droid for foss app repo
      Aurora Store for anonymous Google Play login and installs

    • Dionysus@leminal.space
      30·
      1 day ago

      Honestly, iPhone is already there in shittyland. You need to jailbreak to do it, which you can host install GraphineOS or root your android easier for the same effect.

      We need a 3rd primer mobile OS option, but won’t get one since the money always enshittifies these things.

      • placebo@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        Jolla looks somewhat interesting, it’s a shame they produce so few devices.

      • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        8·
        23 hours ago

        The most annoying part is the number of good mobile OSs we have already lost over the years to these two; Symbian, BB10, Windows Phone, and WebOS come to mind just off the top of my head. Not to mention the projects that have struggled for traction like Mozilla OS and Ubuntu Touch.

        Edit: I misremembered, it was called Firefox OS, not Mozilla OS.

        • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          5 hours ago

          Maemo/meego was better than all those IMO. It still half lives on in sailfish but had Nokia not been burned it could’ve been a true Goliath that could compete.

          • Dionysus@leminal.space
            3·
            20 hours ago

            I still have my palm pre and boot it up now and then even though it will only connect to wifi, it was a wonderful phone and OS. I’m just so fucking mad at how that all went down and every time I turn on my LG TV and see WebOS it legit hurts

    • M137@lemmy.today
      1·
      21 hours ago

      I thought they allowed app installs outside of the app store now? I haven’t had an iOS device for about 10 years but the few things I hear it feels like iOS is moving more towards openness while Android is quickly moving towards a closed environment and what iOS used to be in that meaning. I also think Google has been real bad with tracking and shit than Apple has ever been. Obviously both Google (or Alphabet or whatever) and Apple are absolutely not good in any way about any of this, just saying to make it clear I’m not siding with either.

      • YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        7·
        20 hours ago

        Apple “lets” you make a dev account to install an app (side load) from something like iloader and sidestore/altstore, but you are limited to installing a handful of apps and each app only works for 7 days after which you have to redo the whole process. Side loading on apple is a PITA. I recently tried helping do this and hate the entire process, it should be more like android. Not that android is perfect, because I personally believe you should be able to install any app or OS on any device.