You’re a barbaric nation for many reasons already, this will just be another nail in the coffin.
For Liberals, barbarism is when you publicly show what you are doing instead of doing it in secret.
The New Republic is a conservative publication.
don’t worry guys, it’s really not as bad as you think. it’s worse. you’ve been a barbaric nation since 1776.
Yes, nation of punching down, cloaked behind “liberty and justice for all”. It was always mostly lies and a little truth, a way for the wealthy to take more as they’ve done for ages, and use supernatural as excuse too for their violence against people. So much knowledge was lost too, it’s tragic the invaders couldn’t get along like the Haudenosaunee Confederacy had found a better way. It’s not too late to make better choices for better future.
We passed the “barbaric” marker a long time ago.
Yes, but this publication is conservative. When they’re saying it’s barbaric, it’s bad.
We’re already a barbaric nation… or have you not been paying attention for like… your whole life?
A few thoughts on this.
I’m strongly against capital punishment. Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty who deserve to die and the world is better off without. But our criminal justice system, while good, has made too many mistakes. Plus, given all the appeals and whatnot, it’s actually cheaper to keep someone in jail for life than to execute them.
The problem with our society is when it comes to violence, we live in a state of almost childlike innocence. The vast majority of Americans have NO exposure to real violence and death. The vast majority of Americans have never seen another human die, in real life or on video. The vast majority of Americans have never even seen a real dead body. We censor any death or gore on news, and call ourselves civilized.
Even our ‘violent’ movies and TV are nonsense- the bad guy gets shot, a squib goes off under his shirt, and he falls down. Meanwhile the hero is taking blow after blow that (in reality) would each cause life-altering injuries. It’s almost cartoonish.
So with this innocent ignorance, we then debate things like war, gang violence, and capital punishment as abstract academic concepts, as we have no frame of reference to ground them in reality.
Personally I think more Americans should acquaint themselves with the reality of the world we inhabit. The reality is that human bodies are fragile as hell, it doesn’t take a lot to seriously wreck one in all kinds of ways, and when that happens it’s NOT funny or pretty.
So for that reason, I would like to see at least the recordings of executions be made public. If the American people are going to discuss a policy, they should see what they are actually discussing. I suspect one video of an electric chair execution would be enough to end capital punishment in the USA for good. But even still with firing squad, I think people should see the reality of turning a living human into a dead human.
With that all said- this is NOT the place to do that.
This is not about domestic policy. This is about international peacekeeping. To the Islamic extremists, this guy is a hero. Shoot him live on TV and you turn him into a martyr. The extremist people WANT to die in service of their cause. Death is not a feared consequence, it’s the expected end of martyring themselves. You think someone who goes to shoot up a mall expects to live through to retirement? No, they understand that’s the end, they just want to take out others at the same time.
This video would not ‘strike fear in their hearts’, it would be a recruitment tool! This is something anyone with even the most basic understanding of Islamic extremism understands. I don’t understand why the so-called experts are ignoring it.Exactly. Even going past the fucking barbarity of it, it reveals the sheer stupidity of Hegseth and the administration far more.
Did you know Trump in the last months of his first term executed more people than any president of the 20th century except for FDR? and for FDR 6 of them were Nazi saboteurs. And FDR had 3 full terms. In total FDR executed 16 people. Trump had 13 in barely 6 months.
After the Gregg decision (post-1963) the only federal executions were by George Bush junior and he only executed 3.
Basically this guy is the most murderous president we have ever had in the worst possible way ever. Even Hitler had some real beliefs beyond genocide and murder. Trump has none.
If?
I’ve been waiting 40 years now for that leftward swing.
Best we’ve done so far is Obama passing a heritage foundation free market based “healthcare” system.
Don’t forget extending and building upon the Patriot Act!
Hate to break it to you, but this has always been a barbaric nation that was founded on colonialism and genocide. Putting an execution behind closed doors does not change that.
After 3 years of full fledged US-backed livestreamed genocide it is quite astounding people are upset about an execution being livestreamed
Every nation is barbaric. Show me one that isn’t.
Maybe we can stay on topic, big guy, we’re shitting on America right now.
Also just a reminder, constantly talking about what Hegeseth wants you to talk about (i.e. the live execution) instead of talking about what he doesn’t want you to be taking about (i.e. losing bases in Iran, Epstein, etc) is playing right into his hand.
Also a reminder that you can oppose more than one thing at a time, and opposing a barbaric public execution is objectively the right call.
But talking about it in ad naseum without even mentioning WHY he’s doing this? Yeah that’s just feeding the propaganda machine my friend.
You already are.
It just means mask has slipped.
White phosphorus and cluster bombs are still used by the US.
Meanwhile the list of fuckery is so long it’s hard to pick a starting point.
“im fine with the state executing people as long as it behind closed doors!” - liberals
The New Republic is a conservative publication.
What ? There are 25 states that have abolished death penalty, take a look at that list almost every blue state is on it . MAGA dummies subsist on sucking down hot loads of right wing misinformation in order to prop of the abject failure of the trump administration.
What ? There are 25 states that have abolished death penalty,
Great… it only leaves the other 25…
