what does the wealthy having wealth do for me? its not as if my home or possessions are sacred. I gain nothing from the taboos that protect them.
the time for a wealth tax was fifty years ago. most of us hadn’t been born yet. Now is the time for avenging the victims of property, for taking the world back, for casting off this great weight and unleashing human flourishing, production, art.
still would rather not have them than tax them. not having them would be easier than taxing them. starting in on not having them would make taxing them as a conditional surrender much easier if that were your ultimate goal.
what does them existing in society get us? we kill children who are accused of stealing candy bars and shit head 20 year olds who sell meth.
so justify the harms allowing the wealthy to continue to exist inflicts on the rest of us. make them less horrible than misplaced skittles. justify the lives that could be saved with the resources they consume being lost instead.
no amount if tax would be enough. they must he exterminated.
I finally obtained a numerical value. 50$ mil and up is considered the ultra rich and the benchmark for a wealth tax.
100mil and up would be more worth it be cause you were to do a fixed rate of 7% more than the general population redistribution would seem more worth it. Taxing the super duper rich 3% could’ve worked in 2009.
I still think to myself : There’s people out there with all the money in the world… People who have the ability to better society and instead they just do shit like donate a wing for tax write offs and if there’s no tax write-off or passive income for 20 years there’s no point to those people.
You know what, I looked at my fiancé sometime at the beginning of last month and I said to her: " If I had that kind of money if I had trillions of dollars to just piss away, I would buy up so many old hospitals and make them functional. I’d find all the people I’ve wronged and I’d build trusts for their kids to go to college and give them 5 million each to do whatever the fuck they want with, buy a house, invest whatever they want.
I would donate a fuck load to every special needs school, I would overhaul my home city, I would overhaul the one I live in, I would put so much back into the lives of those that matter to me and others.
And it’s crazy that there’s people out there with nearly all the money in the world and they won’t help anyone but themselves."
She looked at me with her eyes wide with a smile, that like that of you son of a removed you would too kind of smile.
In that moment after I said all of that it made me realize: THAT’S PART OF IT!!! FUCK!!! There’s people with nearly all the money in the world and will never have to worry about anything for generations to come unless they choose to indulge in a different lifestyle than what they grew up with and they choose to just never put any of it back into society.
Well fuck that! , maybe they should be forced to give back some of their wealth back into society to better the planet instead of just keeping it all for themselves.
I ultimately understood wealth redistribution after saying there’s people with nearly all the money in the world and they choose to not help a soul.
why do we let them keep defiling earth with their caustic presence? they’re vile. they will never do anything for another person. why allow them in society? why allow them any power? any protection for their possessions? that’s real resources that could go to building schools and hospitals.
By holding wealth they hold power, by holding power they can use coercion and violence to ensure they keep power
So that unless a large enough majority would choose to fight back, which is a huge risk that most wouldn’t want to take, they can just fend off all attempts to remove their power with very little difficulty
And you may say “but then why doesn’t a majority form to fight back?”
fear of repurcussion - what if you lose the fight? They will destroy everything you care about in retaliation
corruption of state - the state itself is willing to prop them up due to those with wealth using wealth as a tool to rot it from the inside out
class traitors - those in power create a mythology that anyone could be like them, it just takes hard work, in so creating people who have no power that are willing to fight for them cause they think it will give them power (it won’t)
If things get bad enough, then all those bullet points will not outweigh the amount of people willing to fight back, it’s happened time and again. But in almost every case it’s gotten MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE than our already shitty situation before there was enough will to fight.
The real resource they have is their money. Other than that it’s all stuff they buy with their money to be able to have assets to hold their wealth and I don’t mean just mansions I mean paintings, jelwery, antique and vintage furniture of value. Clothing that needs to be stored a certain ways, wines and collectable foods, historical documents of value, historical artifacts in general…
Things that we would never even think of is what they hold their wealth in which is why they use trusts and company holdings and offshore bank accounts so they’re not holding their full assets and net worth.
Like that one painting that they all say is worth 20 mil, is that 20 mil that’s not in their bank account but is always obtainable through auction. It makes you less of a target if your wealth is spread and diversified.
none of that does fuck all for me, and I bet that painting would be easier to look at of they didn’t own it. I might like it. won’t know til its liberated.
…and when you flush the toilet and leave the garbage out everything just ‘magically disappears’. Roads, parks, community centers, safety measures basic care for people with disabilities for these things just appear out of nowhere?
people just do those jobs out of the goodness of their hearts and dont need to eat cuz they are the ‘lowers’?
too late for wealth tax.
what does the wealthy having wealth do for me? its not as if my home or possessions are sacred. I gain nothing from the taboos that protect them.
the time for a wealth tax was fifty years ago. most of us hadn’t been born yet. Now is the time for avenging the victims of property, for taking the world back, for casting off this great weight and unleashing human flourishing, production, art.
Why not both?
its very hard to tax a completely dispossesses living post human object created as a monument to pain and experiment in suffering.
also taxes require a state. those tend to go bad places.
Since when?
There’s ways to do taxes without a state
still would rather not have them than tax them. not having them would be easier than taxing them. starting in on not having them would make taxing them as a conditional surrender much easier if that were your ultimate goal.
I mean, you’re not wrong I guess
While their possessions are hard to tax, they themselves are still fragile meat sacks.
kill them, or make them wish you had!
who says the only solution is killing?
I didn’t propose it.
did you mean victims of poverty?
because taxes do that.
the wealth dont pay taxes. they just take money and let everyone else hold the bill for it.
imagine if they did pay what they owed.
then all that good shit will actually make it to people who needed it.
what does them existing in society get us? we kill children who are accused of stealing candy bars and shit head 20 year olds who sell meth.
so justify the harms allowing the wealthy to continue to exist inflicts on the rest of us. make them less horrible than misplaced skittles. justify the lives that could be saved with the resources they consume being lost instead.
no amount if tax would be enough. they must he exterminated.
if they are taxed they wouldnt be billionaires. there would be no one to exterminate.
try math next time.
Yeah, but that wont bring back the millions, if not billions who died suffering and living in absolute mediocrity because of these demons
time doesnt go backwards.
I finally obtained a numerical value. 50$ mil and up is considered the ultra rich and the benchmark for a wealth tax.
100mil and up would be more worth it be cause you were to do a fixed rate of 7% more than the general population redistribution would seem more worth it. Taxing the super duper rich 3% could’ve worked in 2009.
I still think to myself : There’s people out there with all the money in the world… People who have the ability to better society and instead they just do shit like donate a wing for tax write offs and if there’s no tax write-off or passive income for 20 years there’s no point to those people.
You know what, I looked at my fiancé sometime at the beginning of last month and I said to her: " If I had that kind of money if I had trillions of dollars to just piss away, I would buy up so many old hospitals and make them functional. I’d find all the people I’ve wronged and I’d build trusts for their kids to go to college and give them 5 million each to do whatever the fuck they want with, buy a house, invest whatever they want.
I would donate a fuck load to every special needs school, I would overhaul my home city, I would overhaul the one I live in, I would put so much back into the lives of those that matter to me and others.
And it’s crazy that there’s people out there with nearly all the money in the world and they won’t help anyone but themselves."
She looked at me with her eyes wide with a smile, that like that of you son of a removed you would too kind of smile.
In that moment after I said all of that it made me realize: THAT’S PART OF IT!!! FUCK!!! There’s people with nearly all the money in the world and will never have to worry about anything for generations to come unless they choose to indulge in a different lifestyle than what they grew up with and they choose to just never put any of it back into society.
Well fuck that! , maybe they should be forced to give back some of their wealth back into society to better the planet instead of just keeping it all for themselves.
I ultimately understood wealth redistribution after saying there’s people with nearly all the money in the world and they choose to not help a soul.
why do we let them keep defiling earth with their caustic presence? they’re vile. they will never do anything for another person. why allow them in society? why allow them any power? any protection for their possessions? that’s real resources that could go to building schools and hospitals.
It’s simple: we don’t allow it. They force it.
By holding wealth they hold power, by holding power they can use coercion and violence to ensure they keep power
So that unless a large enough majority would choose to fight back, which is a huge risk that most wouldn’t want to take, they can just fend off all attempts to remove their power with very little difficulty
And you may say “but then why doesn’t a majority form to fight back?”
If things get bad enough, then all those bullet points will not outweigh the amount of people willing to fight back, it’s happened time and again. But in almost every case it’s gotten MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE than our already shitty situation before there was enough will to fight.
oh. I guess we should all just kill ourselves to spare us the coming climapocalypse they’re inflicting on us, then.
Or, and it’s a novel idea, work to push that war forwards in time by supporting progressives and doing local politics
yeah, why go to the doctor when I have band aids? band aids cure all.
The real resource they have is their money. Other than that it’s all stuff they buy with their money to be able to have assets to hold their wealth and I don’t mean just mansions I mean paintings, jelwery, antique and vintage furniture of value. Clothing that needs to be stored a certain ways, wines and collectable foods, historical documents of value, historical artifacts in general…
Things that we would never even think of is what they hold their wealth in which is why they use trusts and company holdings and offshore bank accounts so they’re not holding their full assets and net worth.
Like that one painting that they all say is worth 20 mil, is that 20 mil that’s not in their bank account but is always obtainable through auction. It makes you less of a target if your wealth is spread and diversified.
none of that does fuck all for me, and I bet that painting would be easier to look at of they didn’t own it. I might like it. won’t know til its liberated.
imagine reading how taxes work.
dont do it.
just imagine it.
and then keep posting these questions online.
should be nothing to tax. why take a piece when we could cut out the rot and take everything?
…and when you flush the toilet and leave the garbage out everything just ‘magically disappears’. Roads, parks, community centers, safety measures basic care for people with disabilities for these things just appear out of nowhere?
people just do those jobs out of the goodness of their hearts and dont need to eat cuz they are the ‘lowers’?
We can do both. Both is good
Fedposting on main
why announce it? seems like that would negate the point.