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HarryLime [any]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 6 days ago

(CW: Nazi Imagery) Brace is on an incredible run rn

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HarryLime [any]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 6 days ago
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  • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    ironic fascism sucks

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      It’s not ironic fascism, it’s vicious and unrestrained mockery of what the right is posting right now. That would be more obvious if you could see what he’s replying too.

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        nah, posting fake fascism is cringe as hell. “it makes sense in context” is a weak argument and we should be doing better

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          Well that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it

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            yeah no shit, thanks for the reminder

        • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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          Sometimes less is more and worse is better.

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      this

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    Not surprising coming from a guy who was at the Epstein apartment

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      Whoa, when did Brace meet Anthony Bourdain?! Did he get his autograph?

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      @groKKK@hexbear.net is this true

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    Incredible amount of “He must be a fascist I don’t know who that is” comments in this thread when he fought with the YPG in Syria during their Civil War in 2016. deep-infiltration

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      Part of it is that the posts he’s replying to have been cut from the images I think. If you could see that, it would be much more obvious that he’s viciously mocking righties.

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        Yeah probably, but either way a large number of Hexbears think laughing at an AI generated slop pic of Baby Yoda in an SS uniform alongside Joan Mad Men and Pam The Office, posted by a leftist podcast twitter account where one of the members fought in Syria during their Civil War for the YPG, clearly making fun of the unironic “look what they took from us” is supporting fascism; as if this is a public forum where we’re trying to change a bunch of fascists’ minds instead of being a website for communists.

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      No fun allowed!

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        You have to anonymously tone police other people. That’s how real change occurs!

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          Hey where did tolerating fascist posting because “they’re just being edgy/trolling” take the broader internet culture? Did it go to good places?

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            You’re just doing your own version of blaming Trump 2 on “woke 1.0” or cancel culture or whatever.

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              So nothing bad comes from tolerating “ironic” fascism?

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                This is Brace Belden. This is a man who has walked the walk. He fought for the YPG, he did union organizing, he was on that boat delivering solar panels to Cuba a while back. If he was a cryptofascist all along he did a damn good job covering it up.

                deep-infiltration

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                It depends on if they’re actually being ironic or not. I think it’s perfectly fine to use irony in humor, and to use irony to pock people in posts. What Brace is doing is fundamentally not the same thing as whatever memory you have of some channer from the mid 2010s was doing.

                Furthermore, I don’t think anything majorly good or bad came from the great sturm and drang struggle over how a leftist is ever “supposed” to post or “supposed” to react to posts, except that it made a bunch of people on obscure online spaces mad and tired. Fundamentally, I think you and the other guy complaining in this thread are overly focused on how people react to posts as some kind of important barometer of politics, and I think that’s a reactionary and anti-materialist tendency, which, ironically, is the exact thing Brace is making fun of.

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                Person who can’t tell Charlie Chaplin and Adolph Hitler apart.

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          STFU tailist

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      a westerner helping the ypg isn’t the flex you’re claiming

      I think the podcast’s entertaining but lol. lmao even

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        i enjoy how you took a brief moment out of the electoralism containment thread to post this, combat_brandonism, lol. lmao even

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        So you’re saying it might be Liz posting these?

        Interesting.

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          This is Mehmet erasure

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          Liz is working on a revised version of the Protocols of the Yungers of Zion as we speak, with Brace as the archetype caricature, happy podcaster clasping hands.

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        ?

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      Literally nobody is saying that.

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        hmmm

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    Waffen SS Baby Yoda is such a good bit. I love how he introduced it: https://old.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1xmf5v7/brace_is_the_only_person_allowed_to_use_ai/

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      Oh wow they really did the “you’ve gotta log in to see this” thing.

      Guess I’m not seeing it

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        It’s just Baby Yoda walking in front of arbitrary Star Wars characters, Frodo, Gandalf, and some actress I’m not familiar with. I think that’s the best dada response to Elon Musk’s new thing- radically adopt it in the most cringey slop-drenched 4th level simulacra way possible.

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          Grok is starting to adopt Stan Kelly esthetics

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          what’s the deal with all the ai generated images though? Doesn’t that pod rake in money? They could literally pay a handful of artists or graphic designers to do this.

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            I think that’s the point, that this is slop unfit to be made by human hands and that’s part of the joke

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              Got it, guess that context is needed. Doesn’t really improve the joke but at least theres some rationale.

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                It’s only funny when you don’t get it. Don’t try and ruin it for me by understanding.

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            It’s in response to a recent “look at what they took from you” Anakin/Padme post

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            Elon’s post is trying to make AI slop look cool as much as it is Nazis. I don’t think human art would work in this instance because Brace’s joke is attacking the medium itself and from a faux-sincerity standpoint.

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        You can use the redlib instances to get past that. The instances the reply bot provides are frequently down, but finding a working one will allow looking at reddit links without it. redlib.catsarch.com is one I use, as that is up most of the time.

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      A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

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    Looking at the Trueanon timeline posts just got me breaking out laughing and I had to explain the concept of a Brace Belden and the number of levels of irony posting involved to my coworkers.

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    anakin-padme-3 x same-picture

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    I’m glad Apparently Kid found a forever family with arch angel michael jackson

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      I’m too old for this thread but ironic fascism is how we got nazi punks…

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          With brace it also started that way.

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    I don’t know this dude, but judging from the comments this is meant to be ironic? I don’t know if posting satire that looks like some people’s unironic opinions is all that effective…?

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      Thats my understanding as well. I havent engaged much with true anon but the hosts (or just Brace, not sure) seem pretty into ironic fascist humor.

      Agreed that this type of humor isnt helpful. Its whatever if some leftists decide to engage in a little ironic or satirical joking behind closed doors with comrades (although, still not really appropriate), but this type of humor is certainly going to be unironically enjoyed by some subset of the reading audience. That enjoyment doesn’t translate into a new audience member that is convinced to change their mind, but it may reinforce to them that it is acceptable to be a fascist bigot.

      I don’t like to yuck yums if it can be helped but its pretty apparent at this point that satire (or comedy in general) doesnt move a political needle left. Reactionaries have been cashing in on irony posting for basically decades at this point as plausible deniability (“I don’t really mean it,” “its just a joke, and if you misunderstood that its on you”). Left wingers that partake in the same are going to be confused for conservatives in the best case, and in the worst case are just laundering fucked jokes through so-called satire.

      Can anyone explain the appeal of True Anon? The few times ive tries to listen to it I had to stop pretty quickly due to the amount of ableism in their humor. Was I unlucky? Do I need to enjoy ableist humor to enjoy the podcast? It seems like it covers interesting topics but the episodes I tried listening to were miserable.

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        The few times ive tries to listen to it I had to stop pretty quickly due to the amount of ableism in their humor. Was I unlucky? Do I need to enjoy ableist humor to enjoy the podcast?

        From my experience, yes.

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        Can anyone explain the appeal of True Anon? The few times ive tries to listen to it I had to stop pretty quickly due to the amount of ableism in their humor.

        The ableism is the appeal

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      Fascists always hide behind irony and “I’m just trolling.”

      When someone tells you they’re a fascist, believe them.

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        it’s true Brace is a cryptofascist. it’s actually really obvious if you read his romantasy work.

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          Never read it, can you give more details?

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            I’m sorry I have to confess that I’m pranking you, he’s not a cryptofaascist. he did write some pretty wild erotica and share it on the pod though so I had to share it.

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              Thanks for fessing up, I suppose.

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            He’s only read it aloud on the pod. I think they’ve only read it twice? I was looking for the more recent reading, he’s doing some sort of racial romantasy thing.

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              I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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          a pollock is a fish

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            I said what I said, and autocorrect can try and twist my words, but there’s plenty of other Polaks in the sea. (It’s because their submarine had screen doors.)

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    my unpopular opinion is that the episodes with just Liz and the guest and without Brace were the best ones

    he’s just laying on the irony far too thick

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    ITT: people who unironically and uncritically genuinely think A Modest Proposal was a call to eat babies

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      Ironic calls to eat nazi baby yoda is still calling to eat nazi baby yoda.

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      Plus this type of irony-poisoning “I can be more racist than you can! games” just leads to increasingly over-the-top back-and-forth exchanges, where even “leftists” try to out-do each other in reactionary rhetoric. Its a harmful type of “humor” that ends up alienating a lot of people; something people usually grow out of when they realize that speaking honestly and straightforwardly is much better.

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    every time i see an entity wear a nazi uniform i think to myself “you belong in a museum”

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      they belong in a pit imo

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      Right?

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        i also call them loser costumes, because they were worn by that which got its shit pushed in

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    Why is it Jon Hamm and why has he suddenly become a Romulan?

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      Jon Hamm and Christina Hendricks are on there because of chud obsession with the “trad aesthetics” of Mad Men

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    This shit is beyond my understanding.

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      Right wingers have been on one (including Elon himself) claiming apolitical, lib, or outright left wing media franchises as right wing. Complete with AI generated pictures of those fictional characters being based or with Jesus or in a suburban home with a nuclear family or being an ICE agent or whatever. So Brace (or another member of the True Anon Pod) has been replying to those types with even more AI generated images taking it to the next level. The lady from The Office (US) holding Baby Yoda in an SS uniform. Don Draper posing with the non-Bones Deschanel woman. The Rizzler (or whoever that kid is) implied to be Anakin’s kid. Etc etc.

      So basically, the chuds were claiming cool and based characters as right wing patriots, and the pod is taking it one step further by claiming all characters, even the cringe Office lady or the ugly puppets from OG Star Wars or the twee Deschanel lady, are literal Nazis

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        Ah, tysm.

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