Looking for clarification on something:
If this vote happened and Hegseth was impeached, couldn’t Trump and the current GOP Senate just back-fill his cabinet position before January with no opposition from Democrats?
In other words, wouldn’t it be better to impeach after Democrats have control of Senate where there is a 51 confirmation requirement?
Cool, more democrats-in-disarray being played up by the “liberal media”.
Headlines like this seem to be missing some rather important details.
If i miss a shift, i get fired. Anyone who doesn’t show up to work on time doesn’t represent voters.
It was worse the 11 were not there due to attending an event hosted by AIPAC! Fuckers are traitor to our country.
Chris Van Hollen is calling his colleagues: https://www.ms.now/news/van-hollen-schumer-senate-majority-leader-democrats
Let’s get the new leadership we so desperately need!
7 calls to help replace Schumer and Jeffries:
- Call Ayanna Pressley and encourage her to run for speaker of the house. She would be a great leader in addition to being the first black speaker of the house - which eliminates Hakeem Jeffries false claim only racists oppose him.
https://pressley.house.gov/contact-us/
- Call Senator Chris Van Hollen and encourage him to run for Senate leader to oust Chuck Schumer.
https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/ Numbers at the bottom of the page
- Call your representative and urge them to support Ayanna Pressley for speaker of the house.
4 & 5) Call your senators and demand they support Chris Van Hollen and oppose Chuck Schumer for Senate leader.
http://5calls.org/issue/house-senate-leadership/
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Call Chuck Schumer and demand he step down as Senate leader: (202) 224-6542
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Call Hakeem Jeffries and demand he step down as house leader: (202) 225-5936
Repeat every day until we have new leaders.
Personally, I’m skeptical that this was by accident.
The reps who missed this seem to have common political alignments.
My guess is that they would rather wait until after the new congress gets sworn in to Impeach Hegseth because the extra time is good for their allies in the war industry, and because they have some dumb political game theory about how it helps them if it happens on their preferred schedule.
I don’t think that 11 similarly-minded reps somehow had an oopsie-daisy on the day of the big vote.
There are only two explanations for what happened:
- Jeffries is too incompetent of a leader to get asses in seats to vote for important shit when the time comes.
- Jeffries is a competent, traitorous leader to have arranged for there to be excuses to have not had the votes.
In both cases, he should be disqualified for even attempting to lead the party. He’s either too much of a little pissboy removed or he’s a purchased stooge begging to be the appetizer of our meal of eating the rich.
Wasn’t this some sort of play by Republicans to try and sneak a vote in, which is why a bunch of people couldn’t make it? Correct me if im wrong.
Seems like something designed to make progressives look bad for asking for representation in government. Isreal must be shitting their pants about losing control of the wheel.
No, not really. This vote was scheduled a couple days in advance, so everyone had time to figure out how to get there on time. One of the Democrats that missed the vote blamed a traffic jam, but a reporter saw him on the capital steps several minutes before the deadline. He could have easily just walked inside and cast his vote before the deadline, but just… didn’t.
Neoliberals are conservatives. Always have been.
Conservative and Facist, the two political parties in America.
Yet another complete failure by Democratic leadership.
The vote was rushed. There was a police led motorcade that blocked numerous Reps from getting to be present and vote. Pelosi was ironically honoring vets, in CA, so that’s a fail. And Jeffries could have ‘whipped up’ the vote, so that’s a fail. And anyone could have expected some shenanigans from the gopers, so that’s a fail.
Yet another complete failure by Democratic leadership.
It’s crazy how many bots Israel gives Hakeem Jeffries, the genocide enthusiast. It’s totally understandable when you remember he’s their best paid candidate as well.
Wait, are you saying, “Yet another complete failure by Democractic leadership.”?
Its a small silver lining, but at least they tried this time. Usually they assume they’ve already lost and don’t even make an attempt.
Meanwhile, the GOP is happy to spend years running headlong into failed attempt after failed attempt until something finally lands.
Democrats didn’t even try in the first place, a Republican brought the articles.
Yup, a Republican that tossed Democrats the ball and our illustrious captain dropped it like it’s hot.
Yeah, but Massey is just trying to wash the Trump stank off before his term ends in January. You also have to realize that Hegseth would have been deemed innocent when the Senate tried him. This outcome is actually better, because Keghead can now be impeached and tried in January when the Dems have the majority in both houses of Congress and will need fewer Repugnican defectors to actually get a guilty verdict in the Senate. Politics is a nasty game, but missing this vote saves the current Dems a little bit of political capital to spend once the new Congress is sworn in in January…if Stephen Miller doesn’t violate the Constitution and stop them from being seated. That’s very possibly the administration’s plan right now. Don’t get me wrong, Jeffries and Schumer need to go, if enough Dems have the balls to stand up to the party leadership.
oh shit thats hilarious
The GOP told you when the vote was ahead of time. Doesn’t matter if it was rushed, leadership’s job is to respond to it and make sure that on important votes, your party is there to counter the fuckery.
This leadership that wants to continue being a leader didn’t step up. But they sure did make sure they stepped up to gut the Clean Waters Act though so there’s that.
The 11 took AIPAC money.
This might actually be a bigger screw up on the GOP side. If they impeached now then the GOP controls the narrative and the process. It could be just as big of a sham as Trump’s impeachments were. So now it’s going to come back up next session, and even if they don’t have the votes to oust him, the Democrats will be able to put all of his crimes into public record.
You know, people downvoted a heliocentic system, too…doesn’t change the facts.
Sounds like leadership got what it wanted. How’s that a failure?
I don’t think even the rotating villains of capital want Hegseth involved in the military (and its not like he would be removed if this had passed). This seems more an issue of broader failures of democrats even when aligned.
Make the MAGAts vote to protect this asshole
Give them nothing for free
Imma keep it real with you Jeffries, I’m going to extend the exact same forgiveness I get from my boss when I miss big work responsibilities because I had trouble with the bus: exactly none. Be at work on time, and then police motorcades won’t be a problem.
Besides; we pay these motherfuckers full time to be at work maybe 5 full months out of the year?? Make it make sense.
I’m up at 5:30 every day, I don’t start work 'till 8. By the time I get to sit down after work, it’s 8 pm at least. There is absolutely no excuse for missing a vote. You leave yourself plenty of time to get there, then you don’t have to worry about being late.
This. If I have a downtime, I have to be there on time. Full stop.
“Missed”
They are on a rotation. They have already figured out who to sacrifice based on if they’re up for reelection or not, and whomever they chose because they can afford to take the heat.
It’s all a game. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. They pay by rules you don’t even know exist. Decisions are made behind closed doors, and we are told there was a vote or whatever. The truth is not out there, it’s locked behind a FOIA request that gets denied or redacted beyond recognition.
Jeffries is in charge right now until January, you think he doesn’t have the votes already in place? He will try to stay in power at any cost.
They’ll get it all from you sooner or later ‘cause they own this fuckin’ place. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. — George Carlin
Further proof Jeffries is incapable of true leadership.
No one has ever accused him of leadership, but at least he can’t whip votes to backstab everyone
I don’t like or respect Jefferies, but he’s a compromise I could live with
Schumer on the other hand…
Compromise means we get something and weegxve something. What are we saying we get? Plum committee assignments in return for no progressive bill ever passing the House?
The compromise is that Jefferies is a wet noodle. He can be incentivized and coerced into giving progressives a fair shot, for all his whining about “socialism” he’s met with a lot of progressives, and they came out of those meetings convinced he can be worked with
The public overwhelmingly supports progressives, we have a very good chance of building a large coalition in the party this Congress, and building on that moving forward to really get things accomplished. But right the progressive wing is a bunch of junior members and outcasts, it will take time to develop relationships and learn how to pull the levers
The other options are either someone more capable of actually whipping votes, which would not be good for us
Or a card carrying progressive, but we don’t have anyone established enough to whip votes effectively for that. Assuming we could even win a vote. They’d also be in the hot seat - if we don’t get things done, it’ll kill the political momentum… People always blame the president, then the majority leaders
When things move slowly (and I’m sure they will), in two years we can blame our failures on weak leadership and claim our wins for progressives
Jefferies doesn’t have the leadership skills to rat fuck us on his own. He’ll go where the wind blows, he responds to public pressure and has a political career ahead of him to worry about. He’s not an ally but he is a weak enemy
Shumer is different. He has been proven able and willing to rat fuck the party after one phone call, in a matter of hours no less. His political career is also basically over already, he’s going to cash out if we leave him in place
Politics is a bullshit game, a weak enemy is very probably better than a weak ally in this case
This is absolutely bullshit. With something like this coming up you either spend the night in your office or leave 2 hours early. This is our fucking country and our lives. We voted for you to do this. The movie No Way Out has Gene Hackman as a senator, I believe, who is waiting for someone for a meeting. The person is late and blames traffic. Hack looks at him and says “why didn’t you account for it?”. These motherfuckers have no excuse for this.
I once again wrote to my representative to encourage her to not support Jeffries, and I do so every time an action like this comes up. I implore you to do the same. The Dems will not change unless there is extreme pressure to do so.
Kushner: Hey buddy. Let’s hang out again.
Hakeem: Really? Ok I’ll be right there!
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Hakeem: Hey I’m here! So where’s the party bro?..Bro?This is so dumb.
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There was a massive traffic clusterfuck that delayed a busload of Democrats from returning from an event across town (multiple Republicans also got delayed). This included some of the loudest Democratic supporters of the effort.
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The House GOP exploited this by closing the vote as soon as they had the majority; if it had been the other way around, they would have just held it open for hours until they had enough votes to defeat it. The absent Dems didn’t actually change the outcome.
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This specific vote was driven by outgoing Republican Thomas Massie, there’s nothing preventing Democrats from introducing their own in January. In fact it’s arguably better – an impeachment now would have managers appointed by Republicans and go before a Republican-controlled Senate. I’d much rather have Democratic managers and 56 Democrats in the Senate. Especially if Hegseth somehow is fired or resigns and Trump is able to appoint a new Defense Secretary with the current Senate.
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Even in the case of a 2027 impeachment though, you’d still need 11 Senate Republicans to vote to convict (12 if Fetterman defects), which is extremely unlikely given who’s left in the caucus. This whole effort is ultimately symbolic, not something with a real shot at removing Hegseth.
Acting like this was some nefarious plot by AIPAC to maintain the war is absurd.
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Not just the US. It’s a massive problem on the left - people screaming because the Dems, who just won a big midterm election, haven’t miraculously already made America better… when said election winners haven’t even been sworn in. The Dems currently have no real power and Hegseth was never going to be found guilty in the Senate.
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