The world has experienced its hottest day on record, according to meteorologists.

The average global temperature reached 17.01C (62.62F) on Monday, according to the US National Centres for Environmental Prediction.

The figure surpasses the previous record of 16.92C (62.46F) - set back in August 2016.

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    1 year ago

    Here’s the thing though: The collective carbon footprint of the middle class absolutely dwarfs that of the private jet class.

    The middle class is responsible, the middle class will pay, and honestly I’m here for it.

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      1 year ago

      The issue is people who consume/pollute 10x as much as others per person. People can try to reduce their footprint but it’s pretty lame when some rich person creates as much pollution in one unnecessary plane trip as my household would all year.

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        1 year ago

        The issue is people who consume/pollute 10x as much as others per person.

        Indeed, but 10x doesn’t cut it. The middle class pollutes about 100x more than the lower class per capita. But they’ll get what’s coming to them.

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          1 year ago

          Okay, so my point was wealthy people dramatically exceed that figure, too. Your claim about total pollution isn’t that convincing since yes, obviously 150,000,000 middle class people have more of an impact than 1,000,000 very wealthy people. But per-capita, for sure the people taking private jets blow away the middle class. But is the average American wasteful? Sure. However also our society has been set up so it’s very difficult to live without a car and a ton of semi-disposable manufactured items. People emerging from poverty in countries like India and China have shown plenty of enthusiasm to live in the same wasteful way as the middle class in the west, so… also not sure what your point is. Those people don’t pollute as much because they can’t afford to, not because they’re morally superior.

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            1 year ago

            obviously 150,000,000 middle class people have more of an impact than 1,000,000 very wealthy people.

            And that is a problem from a social perspective. But from a climate perspective, focusing on the wealthy is nothing more than an attempt to shift blame.

            our society has been set up so it’s very difficult to live without a car and a ton of semi-disposable manufactured items.

            Society has not been set up like that by accident. This, too, is the fault of the middle class, for being lazy fucks who would rather drive their car everywhere than look for alternative modes of transport; for eating meat two or even three meals a day, every day; for choosing to live in their mcmansions in car dependant suburban sprawls instead of denser housing; etc. etc.

            People emerging from poverty in countries like India and China have shown plenty of enthusiasm to live in the same wasteful way as the middle class in the west

            They are part of the problem, of course.

            also not sure what your point is.

            The point is that over the next several decades, a lot of people will get what they fucking deserve 👍

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              1 year ago

              The people who suffer the most will be people in developing countries, already subsisting on sketchy agriculture and short on fresh water, when they’re hit the hardest by climate change and lack resources to migrate or change their lifestyle.

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                1 year ago

                Absolutely. And that sucks. But I derive a certain catharsis from knowing that at least some of the people responsible will suffer along with them.

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      1 year ago

      Fret not, clown! The middle class will be dead and your billionaire buddies will be treating each other like loot drops because none of this is being reversed. Fucking pick me peasant lmao get the fuck out of here.

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        1 year ago

        Billionaires ain’t no buddies of mine. They will be able to buy their way free of the worst of the climate disaster, and that sucks.

        But the middle class, at least, will have to pay their dues. And that does not suck.