If you want Germany to atone for Nazism, give Israel your country
Sounds fancy, but this is as realistic as a permanent peace with Gaza as long as it is controlled by the Hamas terrorists that have the main goal to destroy Israel.
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In Germany, the word is criticised, because of the “Interpretationsspielraum” (“wiggle room”).
but that Zionist Jews can do whatever they want.
There are multiple German politicians warning about a disaster in Rafah, about flooding tunnels with sea water, etc.
Acting like Germany is cheering “Well done, go on!!!” is far away from the truth.
Germany is always on the wrong side of history it seems.
Interesting, because Germany was and is kind of well aligned with the Western World for that last decades…
I don’t necessarily agree with every point from the previous poster, but saying Germany is in line with the western world isn’t exactly a defense because the western world hasn’t exactly been above reproach for the last 25 years. There is a lot of Muslim blood on several countries hands. I understand that you argued that the Palestinians struck first, but when you look at the overall death toll, it’s pretty clear that it isn’t the west getting slaughtered on a regular basis in the last decades.
I don’t necessarily agree with every point from the previous poster, but saying Germany is in line with the western world isn’t exactly a defense because the western world hasn’t exactly been above reproach for the last 25 years.
I did not see it as a defense… More like a “Maybe, you are on the wrong side, too”…
I understand that you argued that the Palestinians struck first, but when you look at the overall death toll, it’s pretty clear that it isn’t the west getting slaughtered on a regular basis in the last decades.
The numbers were always like that. Hamas kills X Israelis, Israel reacts and kill X * 10 Palestinians.
Thus, Hamas knew how bad the consequences of the latest massacre could be. I think, Hamas wanted all this. They wanted these pictures. They wanted to separate Israel and some Muslim-countries. One more reason to make sure, they lose power.
Whether they wanted it or not, they aren’t the ones personally pulling the trigger on Palestinians. The Israelis still have a choice about how they respond, and they’ve chosen utter annihilation. Just because you are baited doesn’t mean you have to take the bait.
A measured response. Tactical assimilation of the population until they are united. Education measures to show that historically they are the same people originating from the same region, and they can coexist together rather than enforce an apartheid.
Those are just a few alternatives to wholesale slaughter of an entire region, and Israel has the available resources to do it.
Fewer angry Palestinians = fewer people for Hamas to recruit, and more potential informants to help them fight the threat. It doesn’t solve Muslim extremism across the globe, but it does assuage the situation next door to an extent, and makes it easier to be sure that you’re killing the right people rather than anyone who has had sympathies for Hamas after experiencing oppression.
Sounds fancy, but this is as realistic as a permanent peace with Gaza as long as it is controlled by the Hamas terrorists that have the main goal to destroy Israel.
In Germany, the word is criticised, because of the “Interpretationsspielraum” (“wiggle room”).
There are multiple German politicians warning about a disaster in Rafah, about flooding tunnels with sea water, etc. Acting like Germany is cheering “Well done, go on!!!” is far away from the truth.
Interesting, because Germany was and is kind of well aligned with the Western World for that last decades…
I don’t necessarily agree with every point from the previous poster, but saying Germany is in line with the western world isn’t exactly a defense because the western world hasn’t exactly been above reproach for the last 25 years. There is a lot of Muslim blood on several countries hands. I understand that you argued that the Palestinians struck first, but when you look at the overall death toll, it’s pretty clear that it isn’t the west getting slaughtered on a regular basis in the last decades.
I did not see it as a defense… More like a “Maybe, you are on the wrong side, too”…
The numbers were always like that. Hamas kills X Israelis, Israel reacts and kill X * 10 Palestinians.
Thus, Hamas knew how bad the consequences of the latest massacre could be. I think, Hamas wanted all this. They wanted these pictures. They wanted to separate Israel and some Muslim-countries. One more reason to make sure, they lose power.
Whether they wanted it or not, they aren’t the ones personally pulling the trigger on Palestinians. The Israelis still have a choice about how they respond, and they’ve chosen utter annihilation. Just because you are baited doesn’t mean you have to take the bait.
Sure. But what’s the alternative? Relaxing and waiting for the next attack?
Hamas’ primary goal is to destroy Israel. If they stay in power, there will be a next time…
A measured response. Tactical assimilation of the population until they are united. Education measures to show that historically they are the same people originating from the same region, and they can coexist together rather than enforce an apartheid.
Those are just a few alternatives to wholesale slaughter of an entire region, and Israel has the available resources to do it.
Coexistance with Palestinians: possible
Coexistance with Hamas, a terror organization that wants to destroy their neighbor: how is this possible?
Fewer angry Palestinians = fewer people for Hamas to recruit, and more potential informants to help them fight the threat. It doesn’t solve Muslim extremism across the globe, but it does assuage the situation next door to an extent, and makes it easier to be sure that you’re killing the right people rather than anyone who has had sympathies for Hamas after experiencing oppression.