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    It’s wrong that hospitals need money to operate? Bud, I got a master’s in this… which hospital are you aware of that doesn’t pay for electricity or pay its providers with money? Talk about patently ridiculous.

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        Apologies in advance, my app doesn’t seem to want to show me what context this is in, so I might be off base in my reply, but yeah, that’s a good solution. The problem is that in the USA, if you raise taxes by .0001% people throw temper tantrums. They’d rather pay out the ass for private insurance. I know people on Lemmy don’t feel that way, but that’s how Americans are.

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        Healthcare administration. Why did you dodge my question? Where do hospitals not pay for their electricity or pay their workers money?

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          Healthcare administration

          Holy shit dude.

          C’mon.

          If you are an intelligent human being, as i assume you are despite your ridiculous opinion, (and despite your ridiculous joke of a degree), can you step outside what you’ve been taught, rise above my provocations, and explain why, objectively a reasonable human being shouldn’t be skeptical of the opinion of some person whose existence depends on their being right? A goddamn hospital admin degree? Foreal?

          Why Not ask the ceo of kellogs what we should eat for dinner?

          Im not gonna ignore you like i do most of the shitbirds who argue by insinuating and suggesting intelligence rather than replying first with a cogent, interesting proof of economic understanding. I actually can’t wait to hear what you’ve got to tell me. I think it’s going to be entertaining. I also think you should actually cut your losses and use your degree to understand that you’re in over your head, but i suspect they this conversation that kinna smarts isn’t taught in college anymore.

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            Wow that’s a lot of words to say you can’t think of how to run a hospital without paying people.

            And I agree, the fact that you need a master’s to understand how a healthcare organization runs is absurd, but that’s the state of things in the USA (to be clear, the MHA is my secondary master’s, but it’s the field I ended up in). However, my existence doesn’t depend on anything. If we were nationalized, I’d still have my job, just like the janitors. You can’t just run a medical practice with a doctor and no other staff. I’m sure you’re creative enough to think through this and understand that maintaining a building, checking people in, running computer systems, etc. requires more than just a doctor.

            Now, back to my original point, which I’m really fascinated to hear the answer to. Since you seem to argue that I can’t pay my docs, janitors, nurses, or utility bills, how do I keep things open? Even a nationalized system pays salaries. A healthcare system needs money, unless you’re in a society that doesn’t rely on money.

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                I apologize, I think you’re too smart for me. May I ask you to dumb down your point for someone who has such a low IQ that they got stuck working at a hospital? I jest in how I say that, but I legitimately do not get what you’re so angry at me for.

                You’re free to block me, although I’m not clear why you’re so mad that I criticized the US healthcare system when you also seem to be angry at the same system.

                Maybe this is all my fault for wording my original post poorly, sorry.

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                  It’s not your fault at all, I am also confused what exactly caused them to adopt such a hostile tone.

                  I have noticed that many Lemmings have a strong preference for explanations which emphasize the dysfunction of capitalism as the ultimate source of all worldly suffering. Your suggestion that even in the absence of capitalist incentives, running a modern healthcare system is still an incredibly expensive endeavor that must be funded somehow, disrupts that worldview. Thus, the hostility.

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                    Common ownership of the means of production would provide a lot of revenue that could be used for healthcare. Therefore, without capitalism, this would be easier @news