Progressive and conservative are two different approaches for policy. If the truth is known then there is no point discussing it. If the truth is unclear or the implications of that truth are unclear, then there needs to be discussion.
Your example about both sidesism, bringing on an anti vaxxer, is either a deliberate straw man or a minor example that isn’t a good representative of the media trying to discuss both sides.
But your last point I agree with completely. Neither progressives nor conservatives have the complete truth.
Your example about both sidesism, bringing on an anti vaxxer, is either a deliberate straw man or a minor example that isn’t a good representative of the media trying to discuss both sides.
It happened constantly during COVID. Where were you?
And now we have two antivaxxers running for president. One with a good chance of winning. And they get to talk about their “side” in the news too. Often unchallenged.
I don’t know how you can not be aware of this.
But your last point I agree with completely. Neither progressives nor conservatives have the complete truth.
That’s not what I said. It’s also wrong.
It is completely true that global warming is happening and humans are the cause no matter how much conservatives want to deny it.
I already covered this in a reply that was done four hours before yours, so I don’t know why you didn’t see it. Trump was an antivaxxer before Operation Warp Speed and he has become one again.
Ok, so everything conservatives stand for is wrong? And everything progressives stand for is objective truth? Or are you only referring to climate change?
Also Trump is not an anti vaxxer. Don’t you remember “Operation warp speed”? Maybe you should find more variety in your news sources.
Also, discussions during COVID regarding school closures and vaccine mandates are not the same as denying vaccine efficacy. I hope you aren’t confusing those issues. Yes I’m sure there were anti vaxxers on the news from time to time, but you seem to think it was super common. That’s not what I remember at all.
I’ve seen people where they have a perfectly healthy child, and they go for the vaccinations, and a month later the child is no longer healthy,” he said on Fox in 2012. “It happened to somebody that worked for me recently. I mean, they had this beautiful child, not a problem in the world. And all of a sudden, they go in, they get this monster shot. You ever see the size of it? It’s like they’re pumping in—you know, it’s terrible, the amount. And they pump this into this little body. And then all of the sudden, the child is different a month later. And I strongly believe that’s it.
Progressive and conservative are two different approaches for policy. If the truth is known then there is no point discussing it. If the truth is unclear or the implications of that truth are unclear, then there needs to be discussion.
Your example about both sidesism, bringing on an anti vaxxer, is either a deliberate straw man or a minor example that isn’t a good representative of the media trying to discuss both sides.
But your last point I agree with completely. Neither progressives nor conservatives have the complete truth.
It happened constantly during COVID. Where were you?
And now we have two antivaxxers running for president. One with a good chance of winning. And they get to talk about their “side” in the news too. Often unchallenged.
I don’t know how you can not be aware of this.
That’s not what I said. It’s also wrong.
It is completely true that global warming is happening and humans are the cause no matter how much conservatives want to deny it.
we do? i don’t think so… who?
I guess you’ve never heard of Donald Trump and RFK, Jr.
Donald Trump ran operation warp speed, and I frankly hadn’t been following rfk at all
I already covered this in a reply that was done four hours before yours, so I don’t know why you didn’t see it. Trump was an antivaxxer before Operation Warp Speed and he has become one again.
https://lemmy.world/comment/8963958
I know this might be hard to believe, but Trump is a hypocrite.
As for RFK, Jr. He literally made a name for himself by supporting the “vaccines cause autism” lie.
I wasnt going to vote for either of them anyway…
I’m not sure how who you are going to vote for is relevant to what I was saying. This isn’t about you.
Ok, so everything conservatives stand for is wrong? And everything progressives stand for is objective truth? Or are you only referring to climate change?
Also Trump is not an anti vaxxer. Don’t you remember “Operation warp speed”? Maybe you should find more variety in your news sources.
Also, discussions during COVID regarding school closures and vaccine mandates are not the same as denying vaccine efficacy. I hope you aren’t confusing those issues. Yes I’m sure there were anti vaxxers on the news from time to time, but you seem to think it was super common. That’s not what I remember at all.
Did I say that? I did not.
As for Trump not being an anti-vaxxer:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4517350-trump-vaccine-rhetoric-public-health/
https://thehill.com/homenews/4059468-trump-wont-say-if-covid-vaccines-work-not-a-great-thing-to-talk-about-as-a-republican/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/donald-trump-covid-19-vaccines-children
It’s not even just COVID vaccines:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/06/donald-trump-science-climate-change-vaccines-autism-ebola/
“Operation Warp Speed” was over 4 years ago. He’s figured out since then that his fans don’t like vaccines.
Actually you are probably right about him shifting. There are a lot more anti vaxxers now, after COVID, than there were before.