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Friendly reminder the guardian is run by terfs
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/17dpbf7/the_guardianobservers_transphobia_is_now_their/I believe there’s somewhat of an internal rift between The Guardian UK and The Guardian US with the US publication being more progressive on Trans issues.
…of course people in the US still shouldn’t talk to Journalists, as plenty of right-wing organisations pretend to be journalists in order to produce “gotcha” content and misinformation.
This is new to me. I always viewed journos as standing on the side of truth and democracy.
I mean NYT is conservative trash AFAIK, but I thought the Guardian knew better.
All journos have bias.
Well yeah, the truth tends to be biased
Just start bulldozing them and only talk about DIY home projects. “OMG you should see our new deck. Steve wants to stain it but I really like the bare look.”
My mischievous side wants to do only one word answers, but my rational side knows they’d probably know how to twist it to fit their narrative
Q: What originally got you into DIY
A: Dave
Q: Dave?
A: Yes
Q: Who’s Dave?
A: Nobody
Q: Would you please elavorate?
A: No
…
Q: So have you stopped grooming kids?
A: No… Yes! FUCK!my ass would be so passive aggressive about it’s not even funny. I would completely derail it and talk about entirely irrelevant shit.
“DIY HRT? Yeah no i think linux is a pretty conceptually good system, has a couple issues, but such is life i suppose.”
Or i would just say nothing, and stand there.
Omg you know dave!? Can I get his autograph?
DAVE’S NOT HERE.
Instructions unclear, underage teens have been secretly using Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine for their trans health care needs 👀
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I wish we had cool cspan like British parliament hmph hymph boooooo!
I’m also joining the group coming here from All, I’ve never heard of this, but just wanted to chime in and say I’m sorry some of you have to DYI your own healthcare because the system is failing you, please be safe and healthy.
Unfortunately it’s an ancient tradition. Transitioning is like abortion in that people will find a way if desperate enough even if that way is life threatening.
I think maybe we need to acknowledge this more.
Exactly. This is the only argument needed to support treatments and drugs. If a person wants to do it (a choice made with a sufficiently healthy mind), we should provide safety. Euthanasia, abortion, hormones, etc. We shouldn’t care about further views.
I’m not trans, just a middle aged dude, but it gives me a bit of hope that the trans community has these sorts of options when it feels like half the world wants to deny you your preferred existence. Shitty that you have to, but glad that you can.
Fuck the bigots. Fuck the church. Fuck bad-faith politicians. Fuck the lies of conservatives. And fuck the people who can’t or won’t see the media doing the same thing to trans folk they did to gays mere decades ago.
Idiots, cruel intolerant, controlling idiots, the lot of them.
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No, we should all waste their time giving testimony that is so ridiculous, but still believable.
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Aren’t estradiol tablets from China safe?
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yeah… i heard that people are using jenkem as a diy puberty blocker…
Jenkem is made up of human feces and urine that has undergone fermentation.
Wait, wtf??
(jenkem was a hoax drug that fooled a lot of the media into running stories about it)
that’s fucking amazing, good form! lol
‘All the “alpha male” types release enough testosterone that transmasc people can actually just condense it out of the air.’ And then start explaining in great detail your testosterone condensing setup
“yeah no i’ve been DIYing water for the last 30 years of my life, it really helps me stay healthy and focused”
“Don’t talk to journalists” in general is a good rule of thumb these days
I mean it’s nuanced yeah?
Am I gonna talk to a journalist about a sensitive thing like DIY that could trigger brainwashed regressive people? Fuck no.
Am I gonna blast on all channels that we are in a climate crisis and inequality crisis and housing crisis and? Yes, yes I think I will.
And that’s my decision for me. Some people are understandably never comfortable talking. Let alone to journalists lol!
I remember when the Guardian was the good newspaper that proudly published the Wikileaks documents, sad to see them turn into the Terf Stasi.
isnt the guardian owned by jeff bezos? Or is that the washington one, or both, i can never remember because i never seem to give a shit about these publications.
No, the Guardian is owned by a non-profit trust. They’re still good at investigative journalism, but have a big transphobia problem.
So sort of like the newspaper equivalent of the BBC, in multiple ways.
England is a blight culturally
oh ok, thanks for the input.
Given the “entertainment” nature of journalism, its best not to talk to them about anything else they will try to spin it for ratings
Journalists are terrorists
Half of the good journalists quit, the other half were fired.
DIY saved my life, but the Guardian can fuck right off back to terf island.
Same <3
“I feel like I want to ask about this, but doing so wouldn’t support the oppressed people this is likely supporting. Moreover, it’s not my place to ask, but the name sounds dangerous. Hormone therapy is worth consulting an endocrinologist, which frustrates me due to the sorry, stifled state of healthcare in the US, the time zone this meme came from. However, the alternative, an absence of hormone therapy, isn’t safe either and I don’t want to be labeled “rightoid journo scum” for asking a sincere question in an effort to keep my irl friends safe. So maybe I just look it up myself without interviewing lemmy? That’s the ticket.”
May I suggest Abagail Thorn’s video “I Emailed my Doctor 133 Times - A Crisis in the British Healthcare System” : https://youtu.be/v1eWIshUzr8?si=MLG5nLhD2GrXS07v
She mentions trans DIY and moreso outlines the systemic issues of oppression which have lead many to take their own healthcare into their own hands due to failures and bottlenecking of trans care.
Took me a while to find time to watch this and I just wanted to say that I appreciate learning more about the situation in the UK.
A lot of it is applicable in many different places.
Whenever someone holds something you desperately need out of reach unless you conform to their very specific formula to make that happen you end up with situations where bad system design alters people’s behavior to a specific degree. If you fail the test of being the correct sort of risk for the system to call “a success” your story doesn’t end or go on hold. If your conditions for living are to live on your terms you either have to find other ways to get around the system or you die. Misery is deadly and a lot of the problem with being trans under extremely stigmatized terms is that life sometimes doesn’t become a quest for happiness - it becomes a choice of which type misery is the most compatible.
There are perfectly good reasons to be concerned about people medicating themselves with off label medication, or medication that have been sourced independently of trained healthcare providers.
However, just like when any demographic begins self medicating it is due to a failure in the public health sector. As a pediatric healthcare provider it’s infuriating to see politicians once again attempt to make healthcare their business.
They have no idea how providers assess their patients health, so something like total outcome assessments don’t mean anything to them. When providers are prescribing hormone therapy to their patients , they are weighting some minimal potential side effects against very permanent things like suicide.
The big concern when politicians ban certain types of healthcare , is there’s always a shady character willing to take advantage of the people seeking that care illicitly. Of course there will be people providing these medications who truly want to help people, but they are usually eventually going to be a minority.
Less safe than prescribed, far more safe than none. Most who do it will have no issue unfortunately even idiots can turn out to be trans.
Even if doctors prescribe it where you live… Around here that still generally means oral estrodiol in low doses (WPATH SoC 8 if you want to know the details) which is known to cause unsatisfactory results due to unstable levels. When doses are increased it affects the liver in potentially negative ways. In also requires usage of an antiandrogen in humans with intact testosterone production, which all have known unpleasant sideeffects… (+ A lot of gatekeeping to even get the prescription in the first place.)
Compare that to doing a single DIY injection a month with no known negative side-effects if administrated carefully (other than feminization, duh) even Less safe than prescribed is a dubious claim, I think.
My doctor monitors my levels and prescribed injections. Sublingual was fine though. Yeah you should go in knowing more than your md, but you do benefit from regular level checks
Agreed! Our GP actually let’s us do blood tests whenever we ask for it, so we know that what we’re injecting actually contains what’s written on the packaging and that it yields the expected levels. We (mostly me) also spent a lot of time reading up and preparing before even starting the FHT… Just wanted to add a coma to your original statement, didn’t intend to make it sound contradicting. 😅
WPATH standards of care actually require a doctor to continue to do things like monitoring levels for patients that opt for DIY. I’ve checked with my doctor already if I wanted to switch to DIY shots and she’d be fine to continue to monitor things.
the time zone this meme came from.
What does this even mean? You know that like, people exist and are awake outside of the US while y’all are up right? lol
If it’s posted past 8 AM EST, I assume it’s Americans. Unfortunately, the guardian is global so even that isn’t a determinant of origin. If China weren’t sequestered, and India and Europe were less disinterested in lemmy, I’d be less certain. In short, big population, big posts.
Did you know that 8am EST is 6pm AEST (Australia)?
HRT or Hey as autocorrect would like really hard to put it, is “Hormonal Replacement Therapy”. I’m not trans and I’m sure others would be wondering what it means. I love that someone mentioned Linux.
It’s so depressing that we are loosing our freedoms to change to the gender we are inside alone with our freedoms of expression and for women, their reproductive rights. I can’t believe the level of intrusive legislation happening. I just don’t understand the end goal. I assume that the people making these stupid laws also live here and some must be queer like the rest of us in some way. So why do they insist in making the world harder to live in for the people they don’t understand? 😞
Anyway, just some thoughts before going to sleep. I also do hope putin chokes on a pretzel while dropping without a parachute…no a actually with a parachute directly into the 🌞 sun. Would be the best morning 🌅🌄 ever if it happened.
So why do they insist in making the world harder to live in for the people they don’t understand? 😞
It is quite simple. It is part of a culture war that the right wages using resources provided by the rich. The one and only purpose is to take attention away from the extreme inequalities that exist in our capitalist societies. What they fear most is class war, so they try everything to generate other conflicts for the populace to engage in. It is pretty much the same with other topics, like abortion. Raising these conflicts costs them absolutely nothing, and even if they are part of a group that is affected, the rules do not apply to them anyway, only to us normos.
What frightens me is that, understanding this, some on the left (or those that claim to be left) think that the focus should be solely on class war, to the point of completely ignoring human rights problems. In Germany, that’d be Sarah Wagenknecht and her stupid new party, who thinks people fighting for Trans rights are “lifestyle leftists”. Needless to say, I could not disagree more.
Wait what Wagenknecht actually said that? I knew she was a terf and her stupid party voted against the new trans rights bill but I had never heard this before.
I’m scrolling the All feed, so can anyone explain to me? What are DIYs, why do you need to not talk to journalists ?
This refers to DIY hormone replacement therapy. Purchasing hormones directly from suppliers when health care systems are not able or willing to provide them.
I know this is a thing but I desperately want the trans community to spread a similar message about something made up, like:
DO NOT TALK TO FOX NEWS ABOUT PROJECT MANATEE. I REPEAT, FOX AND THEIR AFFILIATES ARE LOOKING TO DISPARAGE PROJECT MANATEE, DO NOT GIVE THEM ANYTHING.
haha you just fell into our trap, get quoted
I’m not entirely up to speed on the situation, but the UK recently reduced access to HRT. People are trying to make their own by sourcing hormones directly, and the guardian is supposedly contacting people to try and write a story about it.
The allegation is that the Guardian is writing an anti-trans hit piece, and you should not talk to them because they may out you or use your words to make trans people look bad.
And the reasoning for the allegations are that the guardian is one of the major sources of media contributions to British transphobia
Yeah, in British politics transphobia is very much a bipartisan position shared with only rare exceptions by the right, the left, the far right and the far left. Shit sucks fr.
The BBC very notably has a very strong transphobic bias. For instance, on the day of Israel bombing the Iranian embassy I remember BBC radio 4 news spent more time talking about JK Rowling’s tweets about the new Scottish hate speech laws that banned discrimination against trans people and then interviewed a prominent Scottish TERF to give a puffpiece interview about her TERF org and how great JK Rowling is (notably they didn’t interview a single trans person) than they spent on the bombing of the embassy. Also a few days ago they gave a great deal of air time to the Cass Report which was basically made as a hitpiece trying to push for banning anyone under the age of 25 from transitioning (they then completely ignored all the criticism it received for it’s awful scientific method).
