• PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    28 days ago

    https://lemmy.world/post/16146433

    Here’s actual context for anyone who wants it.

    The US president is expected to sign the order as early as Tuesday to seal the border with Mexico to migrants when numbers of asylum claimants rise above a daily threshold of 2,500.

    But sure, both sides the same, if this time we let fascism win it will totally make us into a left-wing paradise, etc etc etc.

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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      28 days ago

      the effect is the same, because part of the executive order doesn’t allow for people that crossed the border illegally to apply for asylum at all and generally makes it more difficult to apply for asylum in the first place. Biden doesn’t deserve defending when he makes the same moves as his fascist competitor.

    • Allonzee@lemmy.world
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      28 days ago

      I’m voting Biden out of harm reduction because I don’t have the stones to walk away and be complicit in additional short term suffering/scapegoating/cruelty, but Biden just like Trump ultimately serves our owner class, and we need to collapse to have any hope of anything but living in this dystopic oligarchy.

      The neoliberals and the fascists alike work to maintain the power of our owner class. We’re only permitted a vote on how to address the social issue symptoms of our rigged economic system. I’d rather we not address those symptoms with scapegoating and fear, so Biden it is.

      Don’t mistake that vote for even beginning to solve anything though. This country is died under Reagan. Something new will eventually have to take its place for any gains to be made at this point, this corpse is too far captured, it has been reformed to maintain class occupation and maximum exploitation under both (D) and ® representatives, both legally bribed and fully owned when it comes to legislating and protecting the long con that is our market capitalist economic system.

      When capitalist induced, reckless growth/metastasis caused climate change is thinning our numbers due to hunger/thirst/deadly weather, maybe then, far too late, we will finally unite against our common enemy in their towers, golf clubs, and guard gated communities.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        28 days ago

        Don’t mistake that vote for even beginning to solve anything though. This country is died under Reagan. Something new will eventually have to take its place for any gains to be made at this point, this corpse is too far captured, it has been reformed to maintain class occupation and maximum exploitation under both (D) and ® representatives, both legally bribed and owned.

        I agree that voting is the minimum and will not solve any issues on its own, but we’ve been in worse spots regarding corruption, and still came out capable of reform. The fight isn’t over, and there’s more than a corpse left to fight over. The country hasn’t died under Reagan unless we’re willing to let it die.

        Campaign finance reform has been a rallying cry of the progressive wing of the Dem Party as soon as Citizens United happened. We, as a society, must relearn the value of strikes and disruptive protests to succeed, but I believe do have a future still.

          • confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            28 days ago

            Vote Biden so elections keep happening and make change at your local level. Voting in the interest of the people in local races where your vote really makes a difference. That’s the only peaceful way to improve I know of.

            Giving up hope is what the owner class wants.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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          26 days ago

          Because the Blue MAGA that will defend anything God emperor Biden does. The second Biden implements Republican policies, those are actually the real important policies.

          And Biden hopes to snatch a few Republican voters, knowing he can count on his rock following of cultists that will vote on him no matter what. Genocide? Let’s go Genocide Joe!. Violating the law to block immigration? Bouldering with Biden!

          • FenrirIII@lemmy.world
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            25 days ago

            I love how you completely ignored the actual reasons in favor of just blaming it all on Biden. You’re a joke.

  • masquenox@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    “The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but they at least don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the “smiling” fox.” - Malcom X

    Remember, folks… friends don’t let friends remain liberals.

      • masquenox@lemmy.world
        01·
        27 days ago

        Apart from a few minor things here and there, I don’t disagree with Chapman on this - which is a rare thing for me with Chapman’s videos these days. I stopped watching him when he endorsed Engel’s ludicrous attempt to justify authoritarianism.

  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    28 days ago

    Asylum seekers are the ones turning themselves in… and it is well known closing off asylum seekers and increasing deportations directly leads to more border crossings.

    What is the gameplan here with this order? Surely commit extensive resources to the bottlenecked bureacracy to help with processing and screening asylum seekers? Right?

    • s_s@lemm.eeEnglish
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      28 days ago

      Everyone crossing the border is trained to claim they are seeking asylum and they can’t go back to their home country.

  • _lilith@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    This is what I don’t get about conservatives. They will removed about immigration and say the border is wide open. Like no my guy it’s so much worse than before. If you are a single issue voter 𝘑𝘰𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘨𝘶𝘺