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state audits and data compiled by groups across the political spectrum have found no indication that noncitizens are voting in large numbers.
Basically, rules imposing additional requirements on voter registration prevent vastly more citizens from voting than noncitizens, since the latter aren’t trying to vote.
What consequences could the government shutdown have for these elections?
Shutdowns always piss people off, and the GOP is always rightfully blamed, no matter their spin.
A shutdown would probably shift things to Harris a solid amount, and lose the GOP the house and keep them in the minority in the Senate.
You can tell most in the GOP know this because every GOP senator is telling the house to cut their shit out, but they ain’t gonna.
For once, I’m begging the GOP to shut down the government. God that would be so fucking funny if they sealed the deal for Harris.
Shutting down the government also means we stop doing any and all government work. That includes NASA, and anything else funded by tax dollars. I’d rather they just do their damn jobs and fund the government so I can do my job.
On the one hand that’s super fair, and I totally understand that. The fact that I’m open to this prospect isn’t me saying that the government shutting down is a good thing unto itself in the same way that being open to chemotherapy as a treatment for cancer isn’t me saying that cytotoxins rule and I love how they make my body feel.
Another Trump term means a bare minimum of four years where not only is actually important government work not getting done, but its efforts are actively redirected toward harmful ends. (And as we’ve seen from his fascist rhetoric, this likely ends up being much more than four years; even if he does leave office at the end of that term, the US government would spend decades recovering from his fuckery.) The GOP shooting themselves in the foot by making it more likely to get Harris into office and make Congress bluer than it would’ve been would mean that whatever issues the government shutdown would create would be vastly outweighed by the benefits of a functioning government and the avoidance of a second Trump term. It’s not a guarantee, but Harris really needs all the help she can get right now, as this race is still too close for comfort.
I agree, shutdowns suck, but a month or 2 of crappiness is nothing compared to years of a Trump presidency.
If a shutdown is what it takes to seal a Harris presidency, so he it I say
I don’t think we need to shutdown the government to beat Trump.
Maybe, but why interrupt our enemies when they’re devouring each other / making a mistake?
Because a government shutdown could permanently destroy the lives of people who are dependent on the government to function, stave off homelessness, or even survive.
On the surface, you’re right.
However, to some people, that month or two of pay could be the difference between having a home or not and, depending on where in the country they live, that could be permanent or even deadly.
I agree with you that Trump and his fascist cult MUST be stopped, but we still need to be careful not to irreparably harm innocents in the process…
Ditto.
Now, it’s actually unusual when a party is punished for a shutdown - as per https://time.com/6317658/government-shutdown-gop-elections-virginia/ past shutdowns that the GOP got the blame for didn’t really seem to hurt them later.
However, the key point from that article is this,
We’ve never had a shutdown this close to a presidential election, let alone during one. That might keep the pain fresh enough to actually cost the GOP, for once.